On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:51:39PM -0500, Nicholas Whittier wrote: > I'm a little lost in the minutes from this meeting. Is the decision that we > use a VM that will be entirely administered by TOS? And hence avoid using > any of OSL's centralized services? > > If so, I'm not sure what we gain by managing all the services independently.
I'm not intending to put ideas in Ian's mouth, so this is just my take on things. First, there is a clearly stated desire in this community to have some portion of its infrastructure self-managed. Where OSL provides this learning experience to interns from OSU, TOS is considering providing that experience to students elsewhere. Second, the actual architecture of TOS infrastructure really needs to be hashed out by a sub-committee. That sub-committee, the Infrastructure Team, can report back here. If we want them to ratify decisions here, that's OK. Third, recent discussions here including my summary[1] show there are multiple needs under various timing desires. The Infrastructure Team is going to need to draw up a proposed architecture that covers those needs. It is likely they will come up with a mixed solution set because of the various constraints. Currently, we have no way for Ian to directly make stuff happen to demonstrate ideas for MediaWiki, other applications, and so forth. If Ian wants to show OSUOSL staff how we'd like our MediaWiki to be configured, one way is to setup a running instance and point at that. (It's a PHP webapp and is relatively portable.) So I don't see Ian's request for a shared-root VM as a final, be-all solution proposal. It's more of, "Something we can do right now that helps us make some progress." It's also something that is likely to be used in the final architecture, based on the already stated opinions in discussions so far, so it's not a waste to commission it. - Karsten [1] http://teachingopensource.org/pipermail/tos/2011-January/001956.html -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41
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