Hi all,
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Samuel Klein <sru...@gmx.com> wrote: > Nio -- please realize that at the current stage, ToriOS breaks Ubuntu's > IP. And if it's discovered, there may be problems down the line. > Could someone please explain to me what does that mean?! > I'm unsure what sort of problems, but we should consider switching to > Debian instead. > > Thanks! > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 at 4:43 PM > *From:* "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > *To:* Israel <israeld...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* torios@lists.launchpad.net > *Subject:* Re: [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites > Den 2016-01-06 kl. 23:06, skrev Israel: > > On 01/06/2016 02:28 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> .. > > I agree with Nio's assesment. > > > > We should all try to be very clear with each other, it is often hard to > > fully express ourselves via faceless text. :) > >> @ all other toriosadores, ToriOS needs input from more people in this > >> discussion in order to find a solution that is good enough. Please > >> tell us what *you* think :-) Best regards Nio > > Hey all, > > I am willing to contribute financially as well, I currently do not have > > much to add but I think between Nio and I we could split the yearly > > cost, until we received more support or others chime in. > > > > I have been extremely busy recently, and have not had the time to do > > much. I have been working on rebasing for trusty, the main issue I face > > there is the increased size of the dependencies. Many things now > > require things we do not use/want/need, such as NetworkManager. This > > requires a lot more dependencies (initial systemd stuff that was > > introduced in 14.04) It will take a while to get a decent sized CD out > > of this, as OBI requires a tarball... perhaps we could offer a separate > > solution where we have a CD image that requires a separate download of > > the tarball... though I will continue to look through things and see > > where I can cut corners (in size not quality of course). > > The best I have gotten so far is around 800MiB This is too much for a > > CD, and does not include Seamonkey in any form (live or installed). I > > might be able to shirnk it more (removing things like synaptic? > > possibly using my battery monitor (very small gtk program) instead of > > the XFCE power manager) > > I still need to test things more but the space issue is the largest. We > > fixed nearly everything with OBI in our previous testing and have made > > it much more robust. > > I do wish there was a smaller network manager that did not require all > > the gnome stuff, and worked as well (including native icon theme > > support), but I haven't found one yet. > > > > Hi Israel, > > I'm glad to share whatever costs are necessary for ToriOS with you :-) > > -o- > > Please check carefully if systemd really appears with the Trusty kernel, > the 3.13 series, that you get when you start from 14.04 LTS and 14.04.1 > LTS. If not, it might be possible to lock booting via init (the old way > instead of systemd). I think Lubuntu works well with systemd, but it > probably makes things bigger. Julien Lavergne has to strip a lot from > the alternate iso files in order to keep them within CD size in Xenial. > Lubuntu has given up CD size for the desktop iso files (they are way > above 700 Mibibytes nowadays (in Xenial)). > > 14.04.2 gives you the utopic kernel and 14.04.3 the vivid kernel, and > soon we will get 14.04.4 with the wily kernel. Finally 14.04.5 LTS will > give us the Xenial kernel. > > -o- > > It might be tricky to get a working mini.iso file with the version 14.04 > or 14.04.1 and the Trusty kernel. Please try via this link (and tell me > if you still can't find such a mini.iso to start from). > > http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ > > An alternative might be to start from an Ubuntu Server iso file with the > Trusty kernel (but not install any server package). > > Best regards > Nio > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios > Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios > Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
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