Hi Nio, I think the OBI option would be good. Though I think for ToriOS 1.0 we will need to simply stick with what we have for right now.
But I think this will be something I will investigate further for later usage. It may not provide much extra benefit. Though it may... However I am going to concentrate on the major issues for now. I was kinda hoping someone would know more about whether this was doable... though I do think it should be.... I may do some testing but there are some things I need to finish before I start something else :) On 09/14/2014 11:11 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi Israel, > > I do not fully understand how an installation along those lines should > work. But I know that you understand a lot about creating a full > operating system, so I encourage you to try it; to do what you want with > a much smaller foot-print than doing it with ubiquity. > > Another option might be to extend the OBI to take advantage of an > existing home partition; to let you include it or copy it to be used in > the system that is being installed. > > Best regards > Nio > > Den 2014-09-14 22:37, Israel skrev: >> Hi all, >> I agree in both respects. >> The target system is something that will freeze up using ubiquity.... >> however, >> our target is also people that want a lightweight environment that is >> fairly easy to set up, and is fully customizable. This would make using >> Ubiquity ideal for some people... however, >> I have an idea that we could in effect partition the harddrive for the >> user based on a few options, and detecting what is already on the >> machine (is it Linux, or not?). >> Then make a chroot on the computer from stored packages in /var/apt/cache >> and install grub2 to it.... and voila. >> It could be a simple dialog program that asks a couple of questions, and >> runs basically the script we already have to build the Live CD, but uses >> /dev/sdX mounted at /mnt/OS as the chroot directory. it could >> potentially link /dev/sdN as the /home of the new system. >> >> Phill, does this seem reasonable? Am I missing something major in what >> I understand here? This seems like what Ubiquity would be doing in essence. >> >> On 09/14/2014 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> No, I'm not joking, Phill :-D >>> >>> Ubiquity should not be the only installer, because it has a heavy >>> foot-print, as you wrote. I certainly agree with you about that. >>> >>> But I think many people 'need it' to set up their system in an advanced >>> way, with several partitions or with OEM. >>> >>> For OEM it is enough to include ubiquity in the tarball and not in the >>> installer (live system). We can consider that. >>> >>> -o- >>> >>> But I suggest that we do *not* include ubiquity in the present version >>> of ToriOS. >>> >>> The alternate installer is an entirely different concept without a live >>> session. It would create a doublet system, that I do not think we should >>> bother about for ToriOS. The OBI needs much less RAM than the alternate >>> installer, and it is much faster and much more stable, particularly with >>> low end computers. >>> >>> Who needs a very complicated partition system on a very old and weak >>> computer? I think some people want it, but do they really need it? Many >>> people (including me) are happy with one root partition, one swap >>> partition and a *data partition*, that need not be included in the >>> system setup, and that can be managed separately for pictures, music, >>> video, etc). This is easily set up with gparted and used by the OBI at >>> the advanced OBI level. >>> >>> It might be different in a more powerful computer, but then ubiquity can >>> do the job. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >>> >>> Den 2014-09-14 16:51, Phill Whiteside skrev: >>>> WHAT???? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 September 2014 15:22, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So even I would say that ubiquity should be bundled with ToriOS, maybe >>>> not in the first version, but in the next version, or in a DVD version >>>> (oversized for CD disks), while we must keep a very lean CD version. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> you are joking. >>>> >>>> Use the alternate installer as per lubuntu. A lot of the machines you >>>> are aiming for could not run ubiquity! Lubuntu runs on less than what >>>> Ubiquity needs. >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts, >>>> >>>> Phill. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >> -- Regards -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
