Hi all, I agree in both respects. The target system is something that will freeze up using ubiquity.... however, our target is also people that want a lightweight environment that is fairly easy to set up, and is fully customizable. This would make using Ubiquity ideal for some people... however, I have an idea that we could in effect partition the harddrive for the user based on a few options, and detecting what is already on the machine (is it Linux, or not?). Then make a chroot on the computer from stored packages in /var/apt/cache and install grub2 to it.... and voila. It could be a simple dialog program that asks a couple of questions, and runs basically the script we already have to build the Live CD, but uses /dev/sdX mounted at /mnt/OS as the chroot directory. it could potentially link /dev/sdN as the /home of the new system.
Phill, does this seem reasonable? Am I missing something major in what I understand here? This seems like what Ubiquity would be doing in essence. On 09/14/2014 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > No, I'm not joking, Phill :-D > > Ubiquity should not be the only installer, because it has a heavy > foot-print, as you wrote. I certainly agree with you about that. > > But I think many people 'need it' to set up their system in an advanced > way, with several partitions or with OEM. > > For OEM it is enough to include ubiquity in the tarball and not in the > installer (live system). We can consider that. > > -o- > > But I suggest that we do *not* include ubiquity in the present version > of ToriOS. > > The alternate installer is an entirely different concept without a live > session. It would create a doublet system, that I do not think we should > bother about for ToriOS. The OBI needs much less RAM than the alternate > installer, and it is much faster and much more stable, particularly with > low end computers. > > Who needs a very complicated partition system on a very old and weak > computer? I think some people want it, but do they really need it? Many > people (including me) are happy with one root partition, one swap > partition and a *data partition*, that need not be included in the > system setup, and that can be managed separately for pictures, music, > video, etc). This is easily set up with gparted and used by the OBI at > the advanced OBI level. > > It might be different in a more powerful computer, but then ubiquity can > do the job. > > Best regards > Nio > > Den 2014-09-14 16:51, Phill Whiteside skrev: >> WHAT???? >> >> >> On 14 September 2014 15:22, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com >> <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> So even I would say that ubiquity should be bundled with ToriOS, maybe >> not in the first version, but in the next version, or in a DVD version >> (oversized for CD disks), while we must keep a very lean CD version. >> >> >> >> you are joking. >> >> Use the alternate installer as per lubuntu. A lot of the machines you >> are aiming for could not run ubiquity! Lubuntu runs on less than what >> Ubiquity needs. >> >> Just my thoughts, >> >> Phill. >> >> -- >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Regards -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
