Hi Everyone! (inline replies) On 08/12/2014 06:36 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Den 2014-08-12 23:38, Israel skrev: >> Hi all, >> (inline and removed a lot of text) >> On 08/12/2014 04:25 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> [replying inline] >>> Best regards/Nio >>> >>> If the internet connection is bad, it is also bad to download the iso >>> file / image file. Would it be possible to distribute a DVD with >>> packages? Who and how many people would want it? >> I mean simply that some people do not have internet all the time. >> They may want to download everything on one day, and then they are stuck >> with our documentation and our programs. >> >> This may not be common, but since the computers we target are older, I'd >> like to have the possibility of targeting limited access to internet for >> those use cases (since Ali has talked about making a fuller version with >> other packages) > Yes, I see. > >>>> Since this is based on Ubuntu it will have the largest support from the >>>> non-linux world (though rpm is fairly close as well), and there are >>>> thousands of sites to help users with any number of issues. >>>> >>>> We can also make a >>>> torios-desktop package that installs all the extra stuff. So, when you >>>> are in a chroot (based on Ubuntu) you can add a PPA, and build your >>>> image with just the torios-core. Then you can go back into your chroot >>>> install the desktop package and build a second image with not much extra >>>> effort. >>>> >>>> The 2 barriers I am facing are: >>>> *1)* 12.04 does not want to build my package (I am working on this.. >>>> trying to find out what is different in cmake 2.8.7 versus 2.8.12) >>>> >>>> *2)* OBI has to be run on a real computer with a USB to make the image >>>> (though Nio has said it can run from a certain Virtual Machine program.. >>>> was it VMWare?) >>> The standard OBI boots from USB (normally) but can boot from any mass >>> storage device, also from an internal HDD (or virtual disk). >>> KVM-VirtManager can boot from USB, VirtualBox can boot from a (second) >>> virtual disk. >>> >>> But we can make an OBI-9w installer, which can boot also from CD, so >>> that it can be booted from the iso file by 'any' virtual machine program. >> Right... this is what we are going for isn't it... but can OBI work on a CD? >> This is (I think) an issue to address, since OBI clones and image, and >> doesn't install the live version, right... so the size is increased by >> 300MB or so? Is this right? > The OBI-9w ToriOS iso file works from CD (is within CD size). The 9w > bare-bone size is approx. 200 MB, so there are approx. 500 MB for the > tarball to stay within CD size. This size limit is no problem with the > kind of very stripped down version we discuss. > > I might be able to strip the bare-bone size down to 100 MB without a > graphical desktop (and the OBI works in text mode). > > A version with a lot of application programs will exceed CD size, which > is no problem, if the installer can be booted from DVD or USB. A regular > iso file with ubiquity can contain more application programs within CD > size (than the OBI). Great! I like the idea of a live system, and an installer that works on such an old computer!! But the requirement of a CD size is the main one :)
The 'desktop' version could be a DVD size. The core system will be fairly small.... I'll look at a test machine I have and let you know the rough estimate. I suppose the 64 bit version could simply use Ubiquity, as 64bit systems *should* have 4Gig of RAM... which is plenty for Ubiquity. >>>> I can build the 14.04 image within a few days, and release an ISO... >>>> however the 12.04 image will take me a bit of time to pick through my >>>> build logs, and read the 2.8.7 documentation to find out what is missing >>>> (or what works differently). >>> Do you need an iso for 12.04, or can it be OK with a compressed image of >>> an installed system, that is installed via the OBI or the OBI-9w? >> I was going to work on both... since I am making an Ubuntu chroot to act >> as the live image, I was going to build an OBI and if need be make an >> alternate version that can fit on a CD, though I hope OBI can fit on a >> CD with the compressed image >>>> P.S. anyone who has done this before and wants to help (or has never >>>> done this and wants to help) e-mail me :) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- Regards -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
