Just to add to my last comment, I'm asking: Is there a way for a non-exit node to (in some form) be recorded as the login IP? "Freja" is a "fast" and "guard" router (among other flags - https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/router_detail.php?FP=2096bcfebb95a1134f39fcf8ceb076ff41a2b48b).
On Wed, July 1, 2020 4:34 am, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:13:37PM -0000, sean_sulli...@danwin1210.me > wrote: > >> I have questions about the Tor node freja. >> >> >> First, according to https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/, the node is at >> 194.88.143.66 which is in Italy. Yet WHOIS says the addresses >> 194.88.142.0-194.88.143.255 are in Pune, India. The last IP from a >> traceroute is 81.25.202.165 and 81.25.202.128-81.25.202.255 is in IT >> (Italy) which suggests that https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/ is correct. >> >> >> Why would WHOIS inaccurately (I think) say the IP is in India? >> > > whois, and geoip databases, are notoriously inaccurate. This is a fine > illustration that it's not good to rely on them for situations that really > matter. > > In particular, there's a pattern where some European country "loans" > an address block to somewhere in Africa or Asia, and then takes it back a > few years later, but nobody bothers updating whois for a while. > > This pattern is also illustrated by some of the periodic spikes we have > of hundreds of thousands of new Tor users in Uganda -- they're actually Tor > users in Germany, but the geoip is wrong. > > (To make things more exciting, sometimes there *are* spikes of many Tor > users in Uganda. But it means every time you see a pattern on one of the > metrics graphs, you have to wonder what you're actually seeing.) > >> Second, according to https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/, freja is not an >> exit node. But if you use... >> >> StrictNodes 1 >> ExitNodes freja >> >> >> ...then TBB will load the purple introductory screen Explore. >> Privately. >> (I tried with other non-exit nodes and TBB typically gets stuck on >> Requesting Relay Information and never loads the purple screen). >> >> >> However, then freja will not load any pages. >> >> >> So if its not an exit node, why does the introductory screen load? >> > > Tor Browser's "about:tor" screen is served locally -- it does not come > from any remote website. > > This is one of the Tor Browser usability improvements from some years > ago, where "making users wait for their Tor to bootstrap, and then fetch a > remote page, before the browser window appears" is no fun so we fixed > it. > > --Roger > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or > change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
