Was the VPN located in the US? If not, then FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction outside of US.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Roger Dingledine <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:58:57PM +0000, mirimir wrote: > > So they did have the server before they knew who he was. > > Careful there -- while I assume they didn't lie in their affidavit, it's > quite reasonable to assume that they investigated all sorts of things, > all sorts of ways, and then afterwards chose to write down exactly the > set of facts that when lined up in the correct order makes it look like > a clean solid case. > > It's a slippery slope from there to 'parallel construction', but I think > it's standard practice to start with some leads and use them to find > more solid facts, and it's also standard practice to not mention all > your leads in your affidavit. > > To be more concrete, their job here is to link the guy to the website. > So if they had a pretty good idea of who the guy was, but not enough > evidence to bust him, it makes sense to me that they would go find one > of the servers, collect all the evidence they can from it, and hope > to find something specific that points back at the guy. And who knows, > maybe they did that several times before they found something they liked > enough to build a case from it. > > Your theory that "he was sold out by one of his administrators" also > fits fine here -- the administrators pointed to the guy but then they > needed to build a solid-looking case. > > > We also knew > > that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of > > that VPN provider will come out soon. > > Why? So everybody can abandon that VPN and move to a different one that > also responds to subpoenas but hasn't been written about in a high-profile > court case yet? :) > > --Roger > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
