On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 05:20:47PM +0000, adrelanos wrote: > Jerzy Łogiewa: > > Hello! > > > > It looks that The Pirate Bay will enter secure browser market, > > http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-releases-pirate-browser-to-thwart-censorship-130810/ > > & http://piratebrowser.com/ > > > > I do not understand why they do the same as TBB. Anyone know? > > With the limited information at hand: they don't. > > TBB provides anonymity and circumvention. > > PirateBrowser focuses on circumvention, dropping anonymity for other > preferences. As long they clearly advertise it as such, I have no > problem with that.
I think I'm confused about what they're actually trying to accomplish. It sounds like they took TBB, replaced TorBrowser with the latest version of Firefox portable (with the addition of foxyproxy), updated the configs, and added some bookmarks. They also added some magic that "allows you to circumvent censorship that certain countries such as Iran, North Korea, United Kingdom, The Netherlands, Belgium, Finland, Denmark, Italy and Ireland impose onto their citizens." The one thing I always think about when I hear about the comparison of censorship circumvention vs. anonymity[0] is something I once heard (maybe from Jake or Roger, I apologies for not having a citation), but it went something like "When you ask someone in China why they choose to use Tor, they do not say it is to circumvent the strict censorship in their country. They say that they use it for the anonymity aspect, because if the government can censor what they are doing, then that means the government *knows* what they are doing. As a result, if they can prevent the government from tracking them, then they are also able to access sites that the government does not want them to access". Assuming I recall the basis of the quote correctly, this is an extremely important idea that must be understood when dealing with censorship. Going back to the PirateBrowser, if they are stripping out all of the fantastic work Mike has done to preserve a users Anonymity (and the packaging Erinn has done) and they replace it with Portable Firefox, I don't think it can reach the full potential of "No more censorship!" that they proclaim. However, I do think it is worth it to look at what magic they use in Iran and North Korea. Is it more than using Tor and a hidden service? Just some thoughts, - Matt [0] http://piratebrowser.com/#faq -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
