On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Andrew Lewman <and...@torproject.is> wrote: > How would you have us promote Tor?
The “Tor users” page isn't presented as a promotional page, it is presented as a factual one. I also remember discussion on this list where I expressed doubt about some aspects listed there (military uses), and the overall claim was that the page is a good representation of the current userbase. > We have a FAQ (as you pointed out) to answer the obvious questions > about criminal usage of Tor. We're fully aware criminals can and do use > Tor. So why not answer those questions honestly, and not pretend that users are stupid? As I said, it detracts from the project's credibility. Anyone who installs Tor (or I2P, for that matter) and explores the hidden services, immediately sees the overwhelmingly illegal (mostly, since it depends on jurisdiction) content. Anyone who runs an exit node immediately sees that a sizable portion of the traffic is of questionable nature. [1] > If Tor shuts down today, who loses and who wins? Why would it be shut down? Why would you structure an anti-censorship project in such a way that it depends on goodwill of authorities? > I notice a lack of child abusers, terrorists, money-launderers, and > drug dealers as use cases on the Liberté Linux motivation page > (http://dee.su/liberte-motivation). That's a motivation page (in a dire need of an update, but that's beside the point) — I don't care if any of these categories of people use Liberté. Why should I? Their activities are someone else's problem. Moreover, if any of them help improve Liberté (be it via bug reports, suggestions, patches, promotion) — then great, and it's welcome. I don't feel a need to justify a project by pretending that most users are some goodwill elves. Do you? I have a strong suspicion that if I didn't mention the possibility of gathering .onion access statistics in Tor network, then I would get the usual replies that there is no evidence of most active .onion resources being of questionable nature. [1] http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/vdhs8/hi_iama_we_are_core_members_of_the_tor_project/c53jzqv -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
