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http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=33143 ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-02-06 14:05 ------- Remy, First, I didn't ask for a vote. Second, your comments are *always* "Strong", so you can skip the redundancy and just comment. Third, the core of my comment was about using a Log4j repository selector which specifically addresses the comments about separating logging per application in the presence of a VM wide logging implementation. UGLI was an aside that maybe could have been left out, but I thought I'd mention it. Sorry to ruffle your feathers! But since you seem to have focused on the non-core part of the comment, I'll bite. What do you suggest then? Continue using the commons-logging? IMO, that's not a solution and I'm not alone in this thought (one example of many below)... Commons Logging was my fault http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/2003/08/15.html UGLI provides for a common logging API, avoids the brittleness of commons-logging discovery, allows for a tiny jar to be compiled against and/or distributed with any given project, and allows one to use any logging implementation at runtime including Log4j, JDK1.4 logging, System.out and NOP. More can be added. Does your objection merely have to do with a personality conflict with Ceki and, by proxy, myself? Any problems with Yoav who, to my knowledge, hasn't voiced objections to UGLI and is a Log4j developer (sorry Yoav, I don't mean to bring you into this, just pointing out a possible inconsistency here)? If not, I find your motivations suspect. If I'm just way off on the above, is it that the UGLI API is not javax.ugli, but org.apache.ugli? Any constructive thoughts on making UGLI or some other concept more of a community process? You mention the "interoperability route". Exactly what you do mean here? What's not "interoperable" about UGLI? If you think I'm clueless, how about giving me a clue and be constructive yourself "which would be beneficial to everyone involved". Jake -- Configure bugmail: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
