Adam,

I thought that this was a spec issue and a quick review of the bugzilla postings
confirms this. The best place to follow this up is with the servlet spec team.

Mark 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Fwd: container managed security]
> 
> Nobody responded to my previous message, but I am still searching for 
> information on the subject. Any references to docs would be 
> welcome. I 
> have searched for threads on this list in the archives but had no joy 
> either.
> 
> Thanks
> Adam
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: - Fri Mar 12 18:50:10 2004
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: container managed security
> 
> In tomcat 4 I was able to to protect my app with non-SSL
> security-constraints while using SSL form-based authentication so that
> the passwords were not sent in clear text. This has been a 
> specification
> of the last 3 projects I have worked on.
> 
> In tomcat 5 this is impossible without coding a work-around.
> 
> I logged this as a bug in tomcat but it was closed as 'invalid'.
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=23970
> 
> I remember 6 months ago someone saying that the tomcat developers had
> decided that due to the danger of session-hijacking, if it was worth
> encrypting the login, it was worth encrypting the whole 
> session traffic.
> 
> Due to the charges that the extra hardware brings when doing all
> logged-in sessions in SSL, amongst other reasons, I disagreed and
> developed a work-around to let me carry on using the Struts & Tomcat
> security features.
> 
> This took me a few days back then, and then this week something else
> cropped up which caused me to revisit the work-around code and spend 2
> days adding to it (and documenting it - it's pretty arcane).
> 
> It occurred to me that this will always happen. The work-around is
> vulnerable to any changes in the servlet spec of course, but also in
> tomcat and in struts.
> 
> I would appreciate finding out the whole story on this - last time I
> just let it go through lack of time. If I'm in the wrong 
> place - perhaps
> the JCP Servlet working group would be better - can someone 
> point me in
> the right direction?
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
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