Nobody responded to my previous message, but I am still searching for information on the subject. Any references to docs would be welcome. I have searched for threads on this list in the archives but had no joy either.

Thanks
Adam

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From: - Fri Mar 12 18:50:10 2004
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: container managed security

In tomcat 4 I was able to to protect my app with non-SSL
security-constraints while using SSL form-based authentication so that
the passwords were not sent in clear text. This has been a specification
of the last 3 projects I have worked on.

In tomcat 5 this is impossible without coding a work-around.

I logged this as a bug in tomcat but it was closed as 'invalid'.

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=23970

I remember 6 months ago someone saying that the tomcat developers had
decided that due to the danger of session-hijacking, if it was worth
encrypting the login, it was worth encrypting the whole session traffic.

Due to the charges that the extra hardware brings when doing all
logged-in sessions in SSL, amongst other reasons, I disagreed and
developed a work-around to let me carry on using the Struts & Tomcat
security features.

This took me a few days back then, and then this week something else
cropped up which caused me to revisit the work-around code and spend 2
days adding to it (and documenting it - it's pretty arcane).

It occurred to me that this will always happen. The work-around is
vulnerable to any changes in the servlet spec of course, but also in
tomcat and in struts.

I would appreciate finding out the whole story on this - last time I
just let it go through lack of time. If I'm in the wrong place - perhaps
the JCP Servlet working group would be better - can someone point me in
the right direction?

Adam



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