It would cause nightmares if you knew how badly I've got my e-mails cross-linked :).
This is to +1 the original VOTE. While I'm personally a heavy JSP user, having patched TC 3.3.x to allow it to run in servlet-only mode, I see the need for offering a servlet-only container. According to the Costin-vote-watch, we still need at least one more (binding) +1 to authorize a servlet-only release of Tomcat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "IAS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tomcat Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: RE: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > I'm very glad to see this vote proposal because it seems to me like the > first step of Servlet/JSP mutual independence. > > Two months ago I proposed Tomcat architectural refactoring plan (at that > time "Tomcat subproject plan") on > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34720.html. > I also showed JSF+Struts+Catalina ensemble on > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35116.html > and a possible Jasper-Catalina relationship on > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35119.html. > I sincerely understand a very few of Tomcat committers share interest in > this issue like jean-frederic clere's seconding on > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34768.html. > > > In my humble opinion, in terms of technology, it is not imperative that > Servlet should go with JSP. In fact, the mother of Tomcat, JServ also > started as a Servlet engine. In other words, Servlet technology itself > is independent one. It also implies that Java Web developers have > freedom of choosing dynamic page generation technology over Servlet. We > can say we have right to use JSP, but on the other hand, we have right > not to use JSP in purely technical perspective. > > However, I totally agree on the need that we deliver JSP equipped Tomcat > for the majority of Tomcat users who are very familiar with JSP (even > cannot live without JSP like me :-). I guess the problem is "Who will do > (or exactly speaking, be willing to do) the job, i.e. making > Servlet-only-Tomcat since we need a considerable number of Tomcat > committers (Costin said 3) for that. If we get wide support from Tomcat > committers but they can't afford the job, how about gathering > Servlet-only-Tomcat team whether they belong to committers or not? I > hope there would be many people who will volunteer for that, including > myself. The detailed processes respecting the work could be discussed > from now on, and this chance might be a new attempt to develop greater > Tomcat empowered by volunteers. > > Thanks in advance. > IAS > > =========================================================== > Lee, Changshin (Korean name) > IAS (International name) > Company Web Site: http://www.tmax.co.kr > Personal Web Site: http://www.iasandcb.pe.kr > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Senior Researcher & Java Technology Evangelist > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/L > R&D Institute > Tmax Soft, Inc. > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/T > ========================================================== > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:09 AM > > To: tomcat-dev > > Subject: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x: > > > > +1 [] > > 0 [] > > -1 [] > > > > -jon > > > > -- > > StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment > > 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco > > http://studioz.tv/ > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
