I'm very glad to see this vote proposal because it seems to me like the first step of Servlet/JSP mutual independence.
Two months ago I proposed Tomcat architectural refactoring plan (at that time "Tomcat subproject plan") on http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34720.html. I also showed JSF+Struts+Catalina ensemble on http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35116.html and a possible Jasper-Catalina relationship on http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35119.html. I sincerely understand a very few of Tomcat committers share interest in this issue like jean-frederic clere's seconding on http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34768.html. In my humble opinion, in terms of technology, it is not imperative that Servlet should go with JSP. In fact, the mother of Tomcat, JServ also started as a Servlet engine. In other words, Servlet technology itself is independent one. It also implies that Java Web developers have freedom of choosing dynamic page generation technology over Servlet. We can say we have right to use JSP, but on the other hand, we have right not to use JSP in purely technical perspective. However, I totally agree on the need that we deliver JSP equipped Tomcat for the majority of Tomcat users who are very familiar with JSP (even cannot live without JSP like me :-). I guess the problem is "Who will do (or exactly speaking, be willing to do) the job, i.e. making Servlet-only-Tomcat since we need a considerable number of Tomcat committers (Costin said 3) for that. If we get wide support from Tomcat committers but they can't afford the job, how about gathering Servlet-only-Tomcat team whether they belong to committers or not? I hope there would be many people who will volunteer for that, including myself. The detailed processes respecting the work could be discussed from now on, and this chance might be a new attempt to develop greater Tomcat empowered by volunteers. Thanks in advance. IAS =========================================================== Lee, Changshin (Korean name) IAS (International name) Company Web Site: http://www.tmax.co.kr Personal Web Site: http://www.iasandcb.pe.kr ------------------------------------------------------------------- Senior Researcher & Java Technology Evangelist JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/L R&D Institute Tmax Soft, Inc. JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/T ========================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:09 AM > To: tomcat-dev > Subject: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x: > > +1 [] > 0 [] > -1 [] > > -jon > > -- > StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment > 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco > http://studioz.tv/ > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
