Costin Manolache wrote:
> Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> 
> 
>>"Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>- starting a VM using exec / monitor the child process. It is not
>>>implemented yet in jk2 - but pretty important ( it's one of the features
>>>from jserv that wasn't yet ported). It seems daemon has a bit
>>>of code - as I mentioned from reading it I don't think it works,
>>>and it would be better to use the code from jserv for this - whenever
>>>we do implement this.
>>
>>That was the feature which created more problems in JServ... I remember me
>>and Ed hammering on it for months in 97/98. My hint, forget about it, also
>>because if you tie it to the web server process, when you take down the
>>Web Server, also your servlet engine is going to go down, and that's not a
>>very desirable feature given how much time it takes to initialize 7/8 web
>>applications....
> 
> 
> I know about this - and I wasn't thinking to implement it in the same way
> ( i.e. have the web server directly start/stop tomcat ).
> 
> The 'feature' is that all tomcat processes ( and you may run more than
> one in a load balanced mode ) can be started automatically and monitored.
> If one dies, it'll be automatically restarted.

What do you plan to use to do the real-time monitoring ?

Threads embedded in Apache 2.0 or will Apache 2.0
execing daemon/service monitors which in turn launch
and monitor the JVM ?

> To make things interesting, this information ( and other like that ) needs 
> to be communicated to apache servers ( to stop sending requests to 
> not-ready servers ), and potentially to an eventual JMX proxy. This is
> the kind of 'control channel' that was proposed several times and will 
> have to be implemented for other purposes.

Ajp13++ ?


Well with that proposal, we'll be very similar to WebSphere for example, 
which have such features, and allow a sysadmin to launch instance (JVM)
from a single control panel.





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