"Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Note that nobody (including me) is arguing about whether some refactoring
> is necessary -- it obviously is.  I'll forward my list of favorite targets
> in due course.  But I care for Tomcat users of all types, who need
> different sets of features; and I'm offended by people who think that only
> their own needs are worth considering.

As always, you misread my comments... I said that for what matters to ME,
Tomcat 5.0 is premature as most of the people I had talked with can't even
put 4.0 in production...

I never said that certain features should be removed (although I would love
it, so that with every release that comes out I don't have to do a friggin
reaudit of the whole system), I just said that they are of NO importance to
me... I'll just keep removing the JARs and repackaging the whole kit every
time I need to make an upgrade...

As an ex member of this group, I just said that I would rather see Tomcat
4.0 work, than see a 5.0 to come out, because since JServ 1.1 there haven't
been a single release of an Apache servlet container keeping up with the
same level of trust that THAT engine provided...

This might be my perception, but I know it's shared by a lot of others,
others who (like me) hated to be waken up at 3 AM because the servlet engine
went berserk...

And as I said to Costin, I'll just take my business elsewhere...

    Pier


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