What is the expected behaviour of Tomcat 4 when starting/stopping
in regards to unpacking war files.

I noticed what to me seems like strange behaviour.

The Host is configured in server.xml with unpackWARs="true".

ls of webapps before starting tomcat, notice that some of the war
files are not expanded out.

$ ls -l webapps
total 1091
drwxr-xr-x   9 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 ROOT
drwxr-xr-x   8 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 examples
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jdbc-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    168332 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 25 20:27 jdbc-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     39156 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 16 13:20 jndi-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     79042 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jndi-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     33516 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-examples.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    411591 Mar  1 06:09 jsp-tests.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 manager
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    159409 Feb 16 13:25 request-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     36690 Feb 16 13:25 request-examples.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     51150 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-doc.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     86902 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 webdav

ls of webapps after starting tomcat, all war files are expanded.

$ ls -l webapps
total 1094
drwxr-xr-x   9 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 ROOT
drwxr-xr-x   8 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 examples
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jdbc-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    168332 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 25 20:27 jdbc-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     39156 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 16 13:20 jndi-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     79042 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jndi-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     33516 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Mar  1 08:27 jsp-tests
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    411591 Mar  1 06:09 jsp-tests.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 manager
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    159409 Feb 16 13:25 request-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     36690 Feb 16 13:25 request-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Mar  1 08:28 scrape-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     51150 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Mar  1 08:28 scrape-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     86902 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 webdav

ls of webapps after stopping tomcat, notice that the war files that
tomcat had expanded out now have their directories removed.

 $ ls -l webapps
total 1091
drwxr-xr-x   9 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 ROOT
drwxr-xr-x   8 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 examples
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jdbc-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    168332 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 25 20:27 jdbc-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     39156 Feb 15 16:19 jdbc-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 16 13:20 jndi-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     79042 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 jndi-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     33516 Feb 15 16:37 jndi-examples.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    411591 Mar  1 06:09 jsp-tests.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 manager
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-doc
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd    159409 Feb 16 13:25 request-doc.war
drwxr-xr-x   4 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 17 06:42 request-examples
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     36690 Feb 16 13:25 request-examples.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     51150 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-doc.war
-rw-r--r--   1 tomcatd  tomcatd     86902 Feb 26 20:36 scrape-examples.war
drwxr-xr-x   5 tomcatd  tomcatd       512 Feb 18 09:06 webdav

What is the point in having Tomcat 4 unpack the war files if it removes
the unpacked war file directory when Tomcat stops?

Why are some unpacked war file directories removed, and others are left alone?

What if you modified the web application you installed, or it manages some
properties files in its own WEB-INF/classes directory?

Is this the expected behaviour?

Regards,

Glenn

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