Alright, this thread was off-topic, and I wasn't going to respond, but,
personally, I think Jon *has* toned down the presentation of his opinions,
and I sent him a quick thank you several days ago to let him know I
appreciated it.  It can be hard to recognize change for the better in
someone when you have a certain opinion of them, and I think this is
clouding the discussion right now.  Personally, I thought this list was for
discussing the development of Tomcat.  Perhaps someone could create a
jon-flames and jon-advocacy mailing lists for these kinds of conversation?
;)

- Sean T.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 8:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Forming an opinion
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Duncan Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > So as a PMC member, he shouldn't voice an opinion? That's akin to
> > what I've
> > been told that as PMC chair, I have to put my opinions aside.
> 
> Perhaps as the PMC chair you could ask Jon to tone it down. 
> If his arguments
> have merit then why can't he present his points without 
> antagonizing nearly
> everyone else? This isn't an isolated occurence. Some may 
> even feel that Jon
> is incapable of a rational and meaningful discourse.
> 
> Many others seem to be able to voice their opinions (even 
> when they are
> strong disagreements) without appearing condescending or 
> unusually harsh.
> 
> I think most of us feel that Jon deserves a wrap on the knuckles. :)
> 
> jim
> 
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