Since you've posted the URL again, I went back and read the initial proposal
again. Each time I read the proposal, I'm left with the same thoughts.
First, let me quote part Craig's message that started the thread and the
voting:
"To facilitate development of Tomcat 4.0, without compromising our
ability to support and enhance the existing Tomcat 3.x code base, I am
hereby submitting three "Long Term Plan" proposals to be discussed and
voted on by the Tomcat developer community."
Based on this and the actual proposed "long term plans" that followed, I'm
not sure how this thread addresses when 3.x code development should end. In
fact, in that same thread, there seemed to be support for ongoing
enhancements on the 3.x code line, even to the point of supporting the
latest specs:
http://w6.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/2000/Aug/msg00486.html
Therefore, I really don't see how Costin wanting to do a 3.3 is "against
what everyone voted for." I think it is a separate issue: How long will
the Jakarta Project and its community support the 3.x codebase in terms of
enhancements, improvements, security fixes, etc. Or, as you say: "When
does it stop?"
Have fun at the meeting tomorrow... :)
michael
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Jakarta PMC Meeting Agenda / Info
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>
> on 1/15/01 12:56 PM, "Kief Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think that's _your_ reason for thinking he should go. I
> get the impression
> > his own reasons for saying he wants to go has a lot more to
> do with the
> > pressure he's getting to either conform to the party line
> or get lost. What
> > you say above reads to me as "if he decides to leave it's
> his own fault for
> > not conforming, it's not my fault for constantly pressuring
> him to conform".
>
> No. What I am saying is that as a group, we choose to go in a certain
> direction and voted on it (with zero -1's).
>
> Let me refer you to this link (again):
>
> <http://w6.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/2000/Aug/index.html#00195>
>
> Now, he wants to go against what everyone voted for by
> continuing on with
> the development of Tomcat 3.x indefinitely. I'm going to call
> him on that
> because I don't see that as being right. I also don't see a
> problem with
> questioning the fact that he has completely ignored what we
> have voted on
> (to the point where he didn't even vote himself!). I don't
> understand how
> you all can accept Costin's lone wolf mentality when this is
> supposed to
> really be a community effort.
>
> My question that I'm going to bring up at the PMC meeting is:
>
> Where does it stop? If we release 3.3 and there are bugs in
> it, do we then
> release 3.3.1...3.3.2...3.3.3...3.4...etc...or do we call it
> quits on that
> tree and focus on 4.0?
>
> Costin has already stated that he is going to disappear. I
> have yet to see a
> real solid answer on *when* he is going to disappear, but
> that probably
> primarily depends on whether or not there will be a 3.3
> release from the
> Jakarta Project (as decided by the PMC).
>
> If he decides to disappear after 3.3 is released (which is what he has
> currently stated he will do), then I would be very against
> making a 3.3
> release within the Jakarta project as the primary developer
> is not going to
> be around to support it. I would much rather see the 3.3
> release happen in
> the forum that he is going to be support it under as that
> will be better for
> the community.
>
> Heck, today, anyone could go to sourceforge and do their own
> release of the
> software and call it FooBar 3.3. Same exact code. What is the real
> difference?
>
> > I don't really see that everyone needs to be marching in
> lock step, and I
> > don't see the need to bully people who aren't toeing the
> party line. Tomcat
> > 4 isn't ready yet, does everyone still loyal to the old 3.x
> order really need
> > to be purged?
>
> Please follow along more closely. That isn't the issue.
>
> thanks,
>
> -jon
>
>
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