Costin Manolache wrote:
>
> Given the PMC composition and the opinions expressed so far
> by some of the PMC members and the silence of the others,
> I'm sure you'll understand why I want to stop "beeing a party"
> of this project in general.
I for one did not see continuing this discussion on tomcat dev as being
productive. It has continued on the PMC mailing list.
> If anyone wants to "debate" with Jon - good luck, I had
> enough of that already, and I have a feeling that even the
> subject of the debate is wrongly choosen - ( the PMC "reaching
> final decisions about the tomcat source" in 1/4 of an
> afternoon debate, instead of the project commiters ).
The role of the PMC in such decisions will be a topic of discussion. In
fact, that is precisely the discussion that has continued in the PMC
mailing list.
Some feel that the decision was already made by the Tomcat committers.
> IMHO behaviors like Jon's should be the subject of the
> debate - but it seems Jon is a PMC member and one of the
> organizers of the meeting.
Jon has strong opinions, and voiced then in an unambiguous fashion. When
asked to defer, he did. Flames are a fact of life in open source.
> ( in any case, I don't think I'm a "side" of any debate
> regarding tomcat - I just contributed code and time to a
> project and got flames back )
The right of committers to pursue their convictions, independent of the
popularity of their ideas at the time, is an important "side" of the
debate.
- Sam Ruby
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>*) Tomcat 3.x vs. Tomcat 4.x. We will be reaching a final decision
> about the future of the Tomcat source base and what our process
> for managing the factors that created the current situation will
> be moving forward. For reference you may want to read:
>
> http://www.x180.net/Mutterings/Apache/rules.html
>
> The Chairman hereby requests that parties from both sides of this
> debate be present at this meeting to discuss.
Given the PMC composition and the opinions expressed so far by some of the
PMC members and the silence of the others, I'm sure you'll understand
why I want to stop "beeing a party" of this project in general.
If anyone wants to "debate" with Jon - good luck, I had
enough of that already, and I have a feeling that even the subject of the
debate is wrongly choosen - ( the PMC "reaching final decisions about
the tomcat source" in 1/4 of an afternoon debate, instead of the project
commiters ).
IMHO behaviors like Jon's should be the subject of the debate - but it
seems Jon is a PMC member and one of the organizers of the meeting.
( in any case, I don't think I'm a "side" of any debate regarding tomcat -
I just contributed code and time to a project and got flames back )
Costin
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