Nick,

"Toy" was referring to size of the makefile, not it's usefulness. Thanks 
to Matthew for the link.

Roy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 11/13/00, 6:31:13 PM, Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
Re: Thanks for the make links and a rant:


> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Roy Wilson wrote:

> > Nick,
> >
> > I agree that your example is simple. Even I can understand and create
> > such "toy" makefile. What I am complaining about is getting

> Not a toy. Really works.

> By the way, Matthew, my boss, sent this earlier but it somehow never made
> it to the list:

> ------------MATTHEW------------
>  Hi Roy!
> >
> > If someone can provide a link to something like "Make for Dummies" I'd
> > appreciate it.
> >

> You betcha, and fyi-- this format is VERY similar to the make file Nick
> Bauman, myself and others use at our place of employment.  (Some might
> say better!?)

> At the very least, it's well documented.

>  http://geosoft.no/javamake.html

> enjoy.

>  -Matthew

>  PS>I've been resisting the temptation to get involved on the ant rant
>  thread, but this link might suggest I'm a Make fan.

>  PPS> I'm not.
> ------------MATTHEW------------


> > evil/nasty/nested makefiles that don't work (unlike the MAKE_CONF
> > experience you've had) and having to understand all [exaggeration] of it
> > to find the presumably few line(s) that must be changed.

> If you don't know make, this will happen. Same with Ant. =)

> > I assume you're referring to Nash the game theorist. Back before WWII and
> > after, von Neumann (a founder of the discipline of computing) applied
> > functional analysis as developed by Banach to problems of mathematical
> > physics and economics. I didn't know that Nash used functional analysis
> > in game theory. Thanks for the opportunity to rant :-).

> Well, Nash is purported to have solved the embedding theorem and was
> working on a general theorem on turbulance before he lost his mind (maybe
> he was writing Makefiles when he snapped. I rememeber it was either
> Makefiles or Fermat's Last Theorem, I don't recall exactly, gah!)

> > Roy
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > On 11/13/00, 5:58:34 PM, Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
> > Re: Thanks for the make links and a rant:
> >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > The makefile I used to compile Tomcat is thus:
> >
> > > ---------8<----------
> > > # Keep track of the package name
> > > PACKAGE=org.apache
> >
> > > # Keep track of the package version
> > > VERSION=3_2
> >
> > > # where the maketools be
> > > MAKE_CONF=./maketools
> >
> > > include $(MAKE_CONF)/config.mk
> > > include $(MAKE_CONF)/rules.mk
> > > ---------8<----------
> >
> > > Can it be any simpler?
> >
> > > Now I know that there is a lot of magic in the MAKE_CONF, but then you
> > > don't have to worry about that. It just works.
> >
> > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Roy Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > > Nick,
> > > >
> > > > I have a copy of the FSF make manual: As our president used to say "I
> > > > recur to my former statement [about make documentation]." :-) I'll have
> > > > to check out the O'Reilly reference. See my rant below.
> > > >
> > > > Roy
> > > >
> >
> > > --
> > > Nicolaus Bauman
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Simplexity Systems
> >
> >
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