On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Roy Wilson wrote:

> Nick,
> 
> I agree that your example is simple. Even I can understand and create 
> such "toy" makefile. What I am complaining about is getting 

Not a toy. Really works.

By the way, Matthew, my boss, sent this earlier but it somehow never made
it to the list:

------------MATTHEW------------
 Hi Roy!
>
> If someone can provide a link to something like "Make for Dummies" I'd
> appreciate it.
>

You betcha, and fyi-- this format is VERY similar to the make file Nick
Bauman, myself and others use at our place of employment.  (Some might
say better!?)

At the very least, it's well documented.

 http://geosoft.no/javamake.html

enjoy.

 -Matthew

 PS>I've been resisting the temptation to get involved on the ant rant
 thread, but this link might suggest I'm a Make fan.

 PPS> I'm not.
------------MATTHEW------------


> evil/nasty/nested makefiles that don't work (unlike the MAKE_CONF 
> experience you've had) and having to understand all [exaggeration] of it 
> to find the presumably few line(s) that must be changed.

If you don't know make, this will happen. Same with Ant. =)
 
> I assume you're referring to Nash the game theorist. Back before WWII and 
> after, von Neumann (a founder of the discipline of computing) applied 
> functional analysis as developed by Banach to problems of mathematical 
> physics and economics. I didn't know that Nash used functional analysis 
> in game theory. Thanks for the opportunity to rant :-).

Well, Nash is purported to have solved the embedding theorem and was
working on a general theorem on turbulance before he lost his mind (maybe
he was writing Makefiles when he snapped. I rememeber it was either
Makefiles or Fermat's Last Theorem, I don't recall exactly, gah!)

> Roy
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 11/13/00, 5:58:34 PM, Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
> Re: Thanks for the make links and a rant:
> 
> 
> <snip> 
> 
> > The makefile I used to compile Tomcat is thus:
> 
> > ---------8<----------
> > # Keep track of the package name
> > PACKAGE=org.apache
> 
> > # Keep track of the package version
> > VERSION=3_2
> 
> > # where the maketools be
> > MAKE_CONF=./maketools
> 
> > include $(MAKE_CONF)/config.mk
> > include $(MAKE_CONF)/rules.mk
> > ---------8<----------
> 
> > Can it be any simpler?
> 
> > Now I know that there is a lot of magic in the MAKE_CONF, but then you
> > don't have to worry about that. It just works.
> 
> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Roy Wilson wrote:
> 
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > I have a copy of the FSF make manual: As our president used to say "I
> > > recur to my former statement [about make documentation]." :-) I'll have
> > > to check out the O'Reilly reference. See my rant below.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> 
> > --
> > Nicolaus Bauman
> > Software Engineer
> > Simplexity Systems
> 
> 
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Nicolaus Bauman
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