On 15 March 2012, at 16:30, Andreas Kloeckner wrote:

> <#part sign=pgpmime>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:38:40 +0000, Nicholas Marriott 
> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, I'm reluctant to add things that aren't a standard part of most
>> *nix distributions. Especially since they seem to keep adding new ones.
>> 
>> If they had made them all GNOME_* or something like ssh it'd be
>> better.
> 
> Bad news: DBus and the X session manager are pretty much ubiquitous.
> 
> Different question: Are you interested in doing things that help your
> users or in proving a point?

You know, there probably is a case for DBus, at least. I don't know about this 
stuff, but I know that I'm generally the exception. But you're going about it 
in a very bad way to make your point.

$ eix -I --only-names | grep -e 264 -e firefox -e deluge -e xorg
media-libs/x264
net-p2p/deluge
www-client/firefox
x11-base/xorg-server
$ eix -I --only-names | grep dbus
$ 

I would have thought that amongst tmux users there were fewer people who needed 
DBus than in the wider Ubuntu-using population.

My problem with starting X11 apps from within tmux is that I get a screenful of 
shite - diagnostic output about GTK libraries being accessed and stuff. So I 
just don't tend to do it, but use a separate window on an otherwise-empty 
virtual desktop -I run `ssh host -X firefox` then ignore that terminal window 
completely. I'd love it if you'd help me use tmux more effectively, though.

Stroller.


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