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Hi Nicholas,

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:53:18 -0500, Andreas Kloeckner <inf...@tiker.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:17:09 +0000, Nicholas Marriott 
> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not sure about this one, KDE and GNOME and DBus are not really standard
> > Unix software.
> 
> True. However, DBus has become rather common on Linux, which is an
> important 'special case'. :) 
> 
> > Doesn't it find it from ~/.dbus anyway if its unset?
> 
> Hah. Turns out I had managed to run some DBus-using program as root
> using sudo, which had repossessed my .dbus/session-bus to root.root. I'm
> guessing that reverting to proper permissions might fix the issue for
> me.

I know you are reluctant to add more variables to the default for
'update-environment', but just in case here are three more candidates:

- XDG_SESSION_COOKIE 
- DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS (as before)
- SESSION_MANAGER

Most Gnome 3 programs won't start without these. (and ~/.dbus doesn't
seem to do the trick) Since there is very little risk for these things
to do damage when added to 'update-environment', whereas there is a
large potential for this to make a common need 'just work', I'd like to
strongly argue in favor for including them by default.

Andreas


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