On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 09:42:23AM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:20 AM Simon Josefsson <simon= > [email protected]> wrote: > > This all seems motivated by insuring against the ML-KEM patent license > > that limits for what ML-KEM can be used for, to allow the IETF to say > > "oh but TLS does not allow ephemeral key shared so we don't care about > > that use-case". > > No. That's not correct, at least not for me. > > Separately, I've noticed you have a tendency to attribute motives to > others that aren't really accurate and often seem designed to reflect > badly on them. I would ask you to stop.
Simon's guess at motivation above was a bit awkward, but I don't think it was "designed to reflect badly" on anyone -- certainly I don't see it as reflecting badly on anyone. You yourself appear to ascribe motive to Simon's ascribing motive, which is awkward when you're complaing about the very same behavior. We should not ascribe motives because it's impolite, bothersome, and counter-productive (and distracting and often the suspicions are flat out wrong). But we also should not use instances of that in ways that can suck the oxygen out of the room and shut down debate. Rather IMO one should limit oneself to expressing a complaint about that and move on. If need be we can each resort to the new modpod processes to obtain relief when someone engages in such behavior to the point of being disruptive. Nico -- _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
