There is a lot in the Google page with which I completely agree.
The range limitations, the low throughput, and especially -

     For a global network at Google's scale, replacing existing hardware with 
specialized QKD equipment
     in our data centers is not a practical or scalable solution.

The main problem with QKD is scaling.
You need a QKD transmitter at one end and a receiver at the other end of every 
link.
This means the scaling is O(N^2).

This is a perfectly legitimate statement, but does not rule out its use for p2p 
usage or small networks.

And there are people who believe in conspiracy theories regarding the 
disparaging of QKD by NSA and GCHQ.

I am not a great fan of QKD; I was just objecting to calling a 50-year old 
technology “premature”.

And as a physicist I object to saying that QKD relies on classical mechanisms 
for detecting eavesdropping.

And as someone who participated in SG13 meetings for 2 decades,
I would really like a polite and accurate response to be sent.
Y(J)S

From: Sophie Schmieg <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 6:37 PM
To: John Mattsson <[email protected]>
Cc: Yaakov Stein <[email protected]>; Salz, Rich <[email protected]>; Andrei 
Popov <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TLS] Re: LS on the work item related to QKD and TLS 
integration framework in SG13

In case you also want an industry perspective, on top of the perspective of 
NSA, GCHQ, BSI, every other European cybersecurity agency, and probably many 
others I'm forgetting saying that QKD is not a deployable solution, and does 
not appear to be a deployable solution any time soon, here is Google's blog 
post on this topic:

https://bughunters.google.com/blog/googles-commitment-to-a-quantum-safe-future-why-pqc-is-googles-path-forward-and-not-qkd

On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 9:21 AM John Mattsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:
Code-based and hash-based cryptography are from the 70-ties. QKD might have 
deployments, but it is not at all mature as a practical security technology, 
marketing is mostly snake-oil, current deployment are practically insecure, and 
both vendors and users of QKD have very little understanding of security. Many 
statements from QKD vendors and users are truly horrendous. Any company 
claiming that QKD is practical is a major red flag, indicating either a lack of 
understanding of security or a disregard for it.

Anybody that have invested in QKD should see it as a sunk cost.

>It also, unlike PQC algorithms, has a (physical) proof that if it succeeds 
>then the information exchanged is indeed private.

No, protection against MITMs is based purely on classical (non-quantum) 
cryptography.

Cheers,
John Preuß Mattson

From: Yaakov Stein 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, 23 March 2026 at 17:06
To: Salz, Rich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Andrei 
Popov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [TLS] Re: LS on the work item related to QKD and TLS integration 
framework in SG13


From: Salz, Rich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 2:31 PM
To: Andrei Popov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [TLS] Re: LS on the work item related to QKD and TLS integration 
framework in SG13

It can be as simple as
      The TLS working group feels that QKD is still too premature to be a 
secure solution to any problem. We note that other organizations also feel this 
way [refs to UKNCSC, NSA if needed]. We are unlikely to do any work in this 
area now. We suggest that you look at the QCRG, in our related organization the 
IRTF, which has active QKD discussions.

WHAT????

QKD is a much more mature technology than PQC, dating back to 1984.
(I used QKD in the 1990s).
There are multiple vendors with significant sales –
the market size exceeded $600M in 2025 with a CAGR of 30%.
It also, unlike PQC algorithms, has a (physical) proof that if it succeeds then 
the information exchanged is indeed private.

Sure, QKD can be expensive, may be limited in range, doesn’t presently do DSA,
and (despite the proof) there are implementation and timing attacks,
but saying that it is “premature” may be “simple”, but is certainly incorrect.

Y(J)S


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