Alicja Kario wrote:
>Can you point to examples of people actually using x448 (TLS group ID 30) in 
>practice?

I think that is the wrong question. I think the right question is which hybrids 
do IETF recommend people to use in the future. I think the answer is hybrids 
with X25519, X448, Ed25519, and Ed448.

I don't think IETF should standardize much more P-256, P-384, P-521, ECDSA, 
RSA, and SHA-2. For new products, Ericsson is currently asking all our 
suppliers for X25519, X448, Ed25519, Ed448, and SHA-3 and we are willing to pay 
for that. P-256, P-384, P-521, ECDSA, RSA, and SHA-2 were all quite good 
algorithms when they were standardized decades ago, but today they are far from 
state-of-the art.

Cheers,
John

From: Alicja Kario <hka...@redhat.com>
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2025 at 13:52
To: Loganaden Velvindron <logana...@gmail.com>
Cc: tls@ietf.org <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and x448
(I originally proposed PR that added that codepoint, together with the
secp384r1mlkem1024, so I'm really not against it, but...)

Can you point to examples of people actually using x448 (TLS group ID 30)
in
practice?

If you want to experiment, then there's the whole private range, what would
making a public ID add to that experiment?

On Tuesday, 7 January 2025 10:01:20 CET, Loganaden Velvindron wrote:
> How about having x448mlkem1024 allocated as an experimental codepoint
> for those who
> wish to use it ?
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 12:52, Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-d...@dukhovni.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 08:00:04AM +0000, Kris Kwiatkowski wrote: ...
>

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