Tiru,

Is SLH-DSA considered a practical option for TLS end-entity certificates?

Under realistic network conditions, TLS handshakes with full SLH-DSA 
certificate chains seem to be about 5-10 times slower than traditional 
certificate chains and, in some cases, can take on the order of seconds.  See, 
for example, the results in https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/071, 
https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/1447, https://mediatum.ub.tum.de/1728103 and 
https://thomwiggers.nl/post/tls-measurements/.

I agree that there's an argument for using SLH-DSA in root certificates, but 
I'm surprised it's being proposed for the full chain.

Peter

From: Russ Housley <hous...@vigilsec.com>
Sent: 03 November 2024 11:13
To: tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com>
Cc: IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa-00.txt

Thanks for doing this work.  I hope the TLS WG will promptly adopt it.

Russ


On Nov 2, 2024, at 8:15 PM, tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

This draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa/ specifies 
how the PQC signature scheme SLH-DSA can be used for authentication in TLS 1.3.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Regards,
-Tiru
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A new version of Internet-Draft draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa-00.txt has been
successfully submitted by Tirumaleswar Reddy and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:     draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa
Revision: 00
Title:    Use of SLH-DSA in TLS 1.3
Date:     2024-11-02
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    8
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa-00.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa/
HTML:     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa-00.html
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tls-reddy-slhdsa

Abstract:

   This memo specifies how the post-quantum signature scheme SLH-DSA
   [FIPS205] is used for authentication in TLS 1.3.

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