I'm OK with a code point assignment so that people can test this out. I
don't think we're at the point where we know the draft won't change.

-Ekr


On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 2:36 PM Bas Westerbaan <bas=
40cloudflare....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> If we want a new name, then I propose kex_hint — keyshare is a DH concept.
> I'm happy with all proposals so far though — we have been bad at naming,
> but fortunately consistently so.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 7:06 PM Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov=
> 40microsoft....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> I think it's more important to keep consistent naming between TLS and DNS
>> than to come up with some perfect terminology for this concept.
>> Publishing the full list of groups supported by the server also appears
>> to be more useful: any partial list is but a partial solution to the
>> problem.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 9:30 AM
>> To: David Benjamin <david...@chromium.org>
>> Cc: TLS List <tls@ietf.org>
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [TLS] Re: Consensus Call: early code point request
>> for draft-ietf-tls-key-share-prediction
>>
>>
>> Two quick bits...
>>
>> On 9/25/24 16:59, David Benjamin wrote:
>>
>> > If you publish L1+oddballs for all routes to T1 and the client then
>> > predicts oddballs to S1, *this is not a failure*.
>>
>> Yeah, I was imprecise again:-) Yes HRR will kick in, but I think that
>> scenario highlights a failure for this spec to help.
>>
>> That said...
>>
>> >> In that case ISTM the right thing is to publish L1 for T1 and
>> >> L1+oddballs
>> > for T2.
>> >
>> > That would *also* suboptimal for T1. Suppose the client supports
>> > oddballs, saw L1, and predicted something in L1. Then they connect to
>> > S2 but actually
>> > S2 really wants oddballs when the client supports it. Then S2 will HRR.
>>
>> With s/would/could/ that's a fair point, though I don't think we're
>> trying to represent that "really wants...when"
>> via this spec, so one could argue that's out of scope.
>>
>> Anyway, I reckon I've made my point, if others agree they'll chime in, if
>> not, I assume we'll stick with the current presentation syntax, maybe with
>> a bit more clarification, and the DEs will like that or not.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
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