>>  I'm not Martin, but I believe that his point is that both TLS ciphersuites 
>>and TLS supported groups/EC curves

>>  permit registration outside of the IETF process based on the existence of.a 
>> specification. As long as PQC can

>>  fit into new ciphersuites and group types, then anyone can specify it for 
>> TLS 1.2, and it would in fact be

>>  TLS, just not standardized or Recommended.

> 

> That is not what the just-adopted draft says.  It says that except for ALPN 
> and exporters that no new

> registrations will be accepted for TLS 1.2 and that new entries should have a 
> Note comment that says

> “for TLS 1.3 or later”. This is a change in the current policy.  It has 
> always said this; see page 3 of [1].

 

Which is why this “just-adopted draft” is misguided and will probably be 
ignored in the field.

 

Those who can move to 1.3+, will do so, regardless of this draft. Those who 
can’t, would do whatever’s appropriate in their case – again, regardless of 
this draft.

 

> At the last meeting we decided NOT to freeze DTLS 1.2 since DTLS 1.3 has so 
> little deployment[4].

> This has complicated the wording of the above statement, which was raised at 
> [2] and [3]

 

[1] 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/slides-117-tls-new-draft-tls-12-is-frozen-00

[2] https://github.com/richsalz/tls12-frozen/issues/10

[3] https://github.com/richsalz/tls12-frozen/pull/13

[4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-118-tls-202311060830/

 

 

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