Hi John,

There are several orders associated with the settlement agreement - which is relevant here.  You need a PACER account to access the docket.  It was a complicated case that stretched over several years and cost ETSI a considerable amount of money - and involved several companies.  Trueposition in its complaint alleged that the 3GPP SA standards were being manipulated through a conspiracy among the named parties to exclude Trueposition from the marketplace.  The other parties must have incurred similar or greater expenses.  The case reshaped the antitrust environment for standards setting bodies.  See http://sullivanlaw.net/standard-setting-org-may-be-liable-for-antitrust-violations-of-member-leaders/.

When the IETF role shifted from government/academic to public markets in the early 90s, the antitrust exposure increased significantly and the Internet Society purchased insurance to cover those in the IETF decision making process.  Presumably, that still exists.  Circa 2012, the IETF briefly visited the subject of antitrust culpability with a group that exchanged some email and hosted a BOF and then went quiet.  See https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/antitrust/about/

The Trueposition v. Ericsson case occurred after that point and was ground breaking.  Antitrust law in this arena continues to evolve. Even individuals can be held accountable.  Over the past year, the competition enforcement bodies on both sides of the Atlantic have made it clear they are concerned about anti-competitive actions in the internet sector and have established investigatory task forces.

TLS is particular has a history going back to 1986 when the platform was first announced by the USG and the TLS specification was instantiated initially in the GOSIP standards and then in ITU/ISO standards.  The are many TLS variants and platforms that produce revenue in the marketplace and bring competition to the industry. It seems best to avoid increased antitrust exposure by potentially restraining TLS competition via standards body activities and suggesting that certain platforms are "mandates."

--tony


On 2020-03-07 9:23 PM, John Levine wrote:
In article <b08c7a20-6949-4776-18d8-58f4c6e39...@netmagic.com> you write:
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One comment.  Perhaps some caution might be advised in light of the
antitrust court order in /Trueposition v. Ericsson/. Ref. Order in Case
No. 2:11-cv-4574, (U.S. E.D. Pa, 14 Jul 2014).
That's a single page dismissing 3GPP from the case. Really?

https://ia800306.us.archive.org/15/items/gov.uscourts.paed.426719/gov.uscourts.paed.426719.296.0.pdf

R's,
John




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