On 15/03/18 00:05, nalini elkins wrote: > There is no question of a smokey back room.
I'm sorry to disagree so bluntly, but while I was an AD some of the people involved here requested that I meet them in private to discuss this topic before it had been raised on the list, and without telling me ahead of time who, from what "enterprises," would be in the room looking for what. As an AD I was always happy to meet folks and have quiet discussions about how to engage with the IETF or explore some detail of how to get something done, I definitely did draw a line well before private meetings aiming to overthrow established WG consensus. While that all might be put down to a tactical error in which advice to follow with whom when initially engaging with the IETF, from my POV it was the epitome of a request for a smokey-back room discussion. So yes, I do find that there are questions here about smokey back rooms indeed. S.
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