On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.sh...@nomountain.net> wrote: > On 3/13/18 10:44 AM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >> And then there are other options too, like another WG. Even from >> Stephen's list of who is in agreement with him, I've received a few >> messages saying their text wasn't what he thinks it was. More >> discussion here would be good to figure out a way forward. The chairs >> have not agreed to allow the work to go forward, but just the >> discussions to determine next steps. > > Part of the problem here, I think, is that it's not clear > what's under discussion - the general problem or this > specific draft. I tend to think that discussions of the > general problem will probably be unproductive and > polarizing, and that if there is a way forward on this > it's to have credible and specific technical proposals. > Remember that in terms of process we don't need to have > unanimity on a decision, but all serious technical > objections need to be addressed and resolved. So, > if someone has a draft that can eventually clear that > bar, proponents of allowing third parties to decrypt > TLS sessions have a way forward. (Unfortunately I > don't think this draft can make it through). At any > rate I would regret (a lot) seeing discussion meander > on over to the broader should-we-or-shouldn't-we question.
I think the chairs made it clear that it is on the specific draft and they just have 10 minutes to present. I believe the slides are already posted and include the use cases within them. We've all spent way more than 10 in this discussion ;-) It's up to the WG to decide and it seems a few want to discuss it, even from the list that Stephen says are not interested. I think it's better to let the discussion happen. Best, Kathleen > > Melinda > > -- > Software longa, hardware brevis > > PGP fingerprint: 4F68 2D93 2A17 96F8 20F2 > 34C0 DFB8 9172 9A76 DB8F > -- Best regards, Kathleen _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
