On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:

> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Kyle Rose <kr...@krose.org> wrote:
>
> We need to dispel the myth that mere inaction on our part will on its own
> prevent implementation of these mechanisms, if for no other reason but to
> redirect energy to the political arena where the pervasive monitoring
> battles *are* actually fought.
>
>
> Inaction on our part will prevent the code from going into the common
> distributions.   That's not worthless.
>

Oh, come on.  You've never seen code in a library that implements something
that's not in an IETF RFC?

--Richard
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