> On Dec 2, 2016, at 3:33 AM, Peter Gutmann <pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> 
> If no-one from Microsoft has any objections, can we just rename it back to
> what it's always been for everyone but us, SSL?

I was with you up to this point, but I do think that going back to SSL is
not a good idea, and takes us off topic.

Is there any glimmer of rough consensus on:

 * TLS 1.3 vs.
 * TLS 4   vs.
 * TLS 2017 vs.
 * TLS 2.0?

Opening it up even wider seems like a sure way to get nowhere (which is
likely status quo TLS 1.3).

-- 
        Viktor.

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