On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 06:54:36AM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote: > > What we've cannot yet turn off is RC4. > > Then do not use TLS 1.3
Actually, we can use TLS 1.3, just not with peers that only do RC4. Provided the 1.3 servers don't do anything actively hostile and terminate the handshake when they see RC4-SHA1 offered among other more acceptable ciphersuites. I was definitely not arguing for inclusion of RC4 in TLS 1.3. I am more than happy with AEAD-only in TLS 1.3, with no RC4. When an opportunistic TLS client that supports TLS 1.0--1.3, and includes RC4 in its list of ciphersuites, connects to a 1.3 server RC4 will not be the negotiated ciphersuite when the server decides to use 1.3. I was just noting for the record, that even with opportunistic TLS we've already made some progress in getting rid of "old crap", but not yet all. -- Viktor. _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls