Thanks Mario and Tobias for the favorable review of what I have done. I agree with Tobias I need to tighten up things and I will explore better formatting, I HATE TABLES, #heheh.
Your review of the work I did is greatly appreciated. One reason I started with this is that there is a VOLUME of knowledge in the hangouts. I am okay at TiddlyWiki but I need to learn more to get better. So why not start with the Seventy Three 2 hour sessions of what I call buttery goodness. That is almost 150 hours of discussions on Tiddlywiki which is amazing, Great Job Jeremy!!! Replies to Mario Interesting topic! > I have done a test page with links to YouTube for TW #70. > I have not put it up yet as I wanted to make sure it was okay with you as > it is your content. > The hangout space has a license tiddler [1] <http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#License>. So there is no problem, as long as you *keep the license for this one tiddler* which you used. ... I'm using a very restrictive license CC-BY-NC-SA [3] <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/>by intention at the moment. It's easy to widen the rules, but impossible to narrow them again, once published :) I do like your hangout 73 tiddler [4] <http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html#TiddlyWiki%20Hangout%20%2373> and would like to see your hangout 70 test. So consider this ho70 [7] <http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#HangOut_070> tiddler to be CC-BY [5] <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/>, with which you can do anything :) Reply - I have added the Tiddler and any that I 'Borrow' I will tag with <License>. Does that meet the requirements as you understand them? I am 'enhancing'(changing) what you did and you should retain full ownership even with my modifications. I am also like Tobias as I created something to help me as the Hangouts were too stationary for such a dynamic discussion. My plan was to do all the pages with your permission over several days to a > week. I'm thinking about to give the hangouts space a different more open licensing, so it's easier for others to use. ... But as you may have found out. Writing annotations and your summary takes a hell lot of time. I usually need from about 60% to 120% of the video length. Sometimes the time is even doubled. So I'm pretty sure, I'd want to keep the NC (non commercial) clause. So if someone else want's to make money with my work, they'd need to ask! But this is up to some more discussion :) Reply - I agree it took me a several hours to get TW #73 done. I am working on ways to do it faster and in near real time. I am going to watch the Hangout anyway might as well be productive while I do. I don't know if you and Tobias are planning anything else at the new > Hangouts site, http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/ which might make this > work unnecessary. In my opinion Tobias used the mechanism he knows best to create the hangouts space. He wanted to use his "filtr" plugins for better filtering / overview. That's why he used TS and TWc, because this was the fastest / cheapest way to get it going. See our github conversation [8] <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1110>: "TW5 Hangout Notes Wiki — Import From TWc" Reply - I need to use TW5 as most of what I learn I am applying other places. Takes about 10 minutes per page to convert right now but I think it will be > faster once I get the process down. That's fast. ... but without your additional text / summaries ? Reply - I wish it included text/summaries. This is just a simple conversion of your date time code you did to allow direct jumps to the video. So a week or so for direct links. Then I start the text summaries. My goal as I said earlier in the post is to get this to real time. If I reach my goal then I only have 150 hours of video to get through, #heheh Since you have already completed the Time Logs that will allow me to concentrate on [[Links]] I use a simple text editor and markup while watching / listening and typing, helps me to type better and learn markups better, win win. Also if you use Chome you get Time from .5X to 2X and that is amazing for doing this stuff. Once I complete the Hangout I go back and fill in the [[Links]] that need to be created, welcome to the missing tab. The hardest thing for me was to get peoples data, I was searching the net for a bit to get stuff, hence the other thread about a standard for us to use between us. If we had a Standard Tiddler Name Tag and we put it at our sites I could easily drag and drop what you want to be listed as. I didn't know, that this: "t=00m00s" timestamp format works I thought you need to use the xxxx seconds format. ... You always learn something new. .. Reply - the major issue is the conversion for me and checking to see the links are correct. The reason for this is my process is a bit 'messy' right now and I hope to have it more neat and concise shortly. ------------------- I don't know if you and Tobias are planning anything else at the new > Hangouts site, http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/ which might make this > work unnecessary. I was thinking about the possibility to make every line in the annotations one tiddler. This would enable the full power of TW and would give every topic a unique URL (permalink). The node.js build mechanism has a so-called "tiddler.multids" format, which imo could be used to create them. ... but that's just brainstorming at the moment and shouldn't hinder you with your great work. Reply - What I have been doing is tagging every tiddler spawned by a TW Hangout with that Hangout #. If you look at the bottom of my Tiddler you will see a list of all the <Tagged> items from TW #73 I would love every concept to be broken out further as you stated. So first I will create links to the videos. Then I will do a bulk conversion, maybe by then we can come up with a way for me to do inline tags to allow automagic tiddler creation. I know that TW can not do In Tiddler Links. Tobias - what ideas do you have, other please chime in as well. The idea is that the tiddler would be more like this [Marker for New Secton - Could use hidden codes] ##:##:## <Some Kind of Divider> Brief Description Details [[Tiddler Links]] [[Outside Links]] More Notes ---End Marker--- [Marker for New Secton] ##:##:## <Some Kind of Divider> Brief Description Details [[Tiddler Links]] [[Outside Links]] More Notes ---End Marker--- Repeat 20 times or so per Hangout It may take me a few tries to get this process 'smooth' so I will probably post once I have a few different options. I did not like Tables and they made it MUCH harder so I will be avoiding them from now on. Check out TwHo#70 with time codes links added - http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html Welcome to the crazy part of the post, if you read this far I hope you like this idea. If we can figure out how to create a Timecode to Timecode playback from YouTube videos then we could create TOPIC PLAYLISTS - It would play TW Hangout 4 -33 - 55 - 66 snippets if that is when the topic was discussed. Thanks again everyone for all your help. Rich Shumaker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
