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Hi Rich,

Interesting topic!
 

> I have done a test page with links to YouTube for TW #70.
> I have not put it up yet as I wanted to make sure it was okay with you as 
> it is your content.
>

The hangout space has a license tiddler [1] 
<http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#License>. So there is no problem, as long 
as you *keep the license for this one tiddler* which you used. ...
I'm using a very restrictive license CC-BY-NC-SA [3] 
<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/>by intention at the 
moment. It's easy to widen the rules, but impossible to narrow them again, 
once published :)

I do like your hangout 73 tiddler [4] 
<http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html#TiddlyWiki%20Hangout%20%2373>
 
and would like to see your hangout 70 test. So consider this ho70 [7] 
<http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#HangOut_070> tiddler to be CC-BY [5] 
<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/>, with which you can do 
anything :)

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My annotations at the beginning did have a single purpose: Make the topics 
searchable for me and give Jeremy a simple "copy paste" possibility to add 
them to the youtube video description area [6] 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKDVD6mf9tk>. 

This description area has some advantages and some disadvantages. 

advantages: 
 - the 0:00:00 timecode is automatically converted to a clickable link. 
 - you can be sure google finds it.

disadvantages: 
 - the amount of text is limited.
 - no external links are allowed. That's why I need to use eg: "pmario 
(dot) tiddlyspace. com" or similar.  

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My plan was to do all the pages with your permission over several days to a 
> week.
>

I'm thinking about to give the hangouts space a different more open 
licensing, so it's easier for others to use. ... 

But as you may have found out. Writing annotations and your summary takes a 
hell lot of time.
I usually need from about 60% to 120% of the video length. Sometimes the 
time is even doubled. So I'm pretty sure, I'd want to keep the NC (non 
commercial) clause.
So if someone else want's to make money with my work, they'd need to ask!

But this is up to some more discussion :)

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I don't know if you and Tobias are planning anything else at the new 
> Hangouts site, http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/ which might make this 
> work unnecessary.
>

In my opinion Tobias used the mechanism he knows best to create the 
hangouts space. He wanted to use his "filtr" plugins for better filtering / 
overview. That's why he used TS and TWc, because this was the fastest / 
cheapest way to get it going. 

See our github conversation [8] 
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1110>: "TW5 Hangout Notes 
Wiki — Import From TWc"


Takes about 10 minutes per page to convert right now but I think it will be 
> faster once I get the process down.
>

That's fast. ... but without your additional text / summaries ?

I didn't know, that this: "t=00m00s" timestamp format works I thought you 
need to use the xxxx seconds format. ... You always learn something new. ..

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I don't know if you and Tobias are planning anything else at the new 
> Hangouts site, http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/ which might make this 
> work unnecessary.
>

I was thinking about the possibility to make every line in the annotations 
one tiddler. This would enable the full power of TW and would give every 
topic a unique URL (permalink). 
The node.js build mechanism has a so-called "tiddler.multids" format, which 
imo could be used to create them. 

... but that's just brainstorming at the moment and shouldn't hinder you 
with your great work. 

have fun!
mario

[1] http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#License
[2] ho70: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKDVD6mf9tk
[3] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
[4] 
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html#TiddlyWiki%20Hangout%20%2373
[5] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
[6] eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKDVD6mf9tk see description below 
the video. -> click the "SHOW MORE" button
[7] http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#HangOut_070
[8] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1110

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