Well, more so a wiggling target than moving. Or gently swaying ... On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:14:52 PM UTC-4 Charlie Veniot wrote:
> Then that will be the glaring difference between my work and the plugin. > > Well, the plugin is really for the benefit of a TiddlyWiki's owner. What > I am doing is for the benefit of the TiddlyWiki viewers. > > Something like that. It is a moving target ... > > On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Oh, I mean somebody else's TiddlyWiki putting things in my local storage >> without my "yes, I agree" (i.e. "yes, I opt-in") consent. >> >> >> That's hard to prevent in general: HTML pages don't need user permission >> to write to local storage. >> >> In the case of the browser-storage plugin, steps are taken to separate >> the data from wikis on different file URIs (the key names used to store the >> tiddlers are qualified with the location of the file). >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:02:55 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hi Charlie >>> >>> Quite awesome, except for one thing: it is opt-in by default, right? >>> >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean. If you referring to the fact that on the >>> demo that I linked the browser-storage plugin is activated by default, it >>> is possible to leave it set disabled, and expose a checkbox or something >>> for the user to enable it for themselves. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >>> Within the boundaries of the filter, it is an all-in / all-out option, >>> by default all-in for the viewer of that TiddlyWiki ? >>> >>> I cannot stand "opt-in" by default, leaving the user with the manual >>> effort of opting out, whatever/wherever/whenever it is. >>> >>> The thing I'm setting up, it is "opt-out" by default, and selective >>> opt-in for every little thing a viewer wants. A manual step that could >>> offer an option of full-auto if I ever add that in. >>> >>> If there is a way to do that kind of thing with the plug-in, that would >>> be a really wonderful thing to document. >>> >>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 12:37:25 PM UTC-4 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Out of the box, the browser-storage plugin saves $:/state/ tiddlers >>>> (apart from $:/state/temp/ tiddlers) and thus most of the UI state. >>>> There’s >>>> no configuration beyond installing the plugin and restarting. >>>> >>>> To make it save all configuration such as which toolbar buttons are >>>> hidden would require changing the “save filter” to: >>>> >>>> [prefix[$:/config/]] [prefix[$:/state/]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Jeremy >>>> >>>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 13:26, Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> It would be some nice if somebody put together a video and/or some >>>> documentation on how somebody can plop a TiddlyWiki out there on the web, >>>> and set it up so that viewers can set their own viewing preferences for >>>> that TiddlyWiki, such that every time he/she visits that TiddlyWiki, it >>>> always displays with their preferences. >>>> >>>> And whenever the author of that TiddlyWiki publishes a new version with >>>> updated content, viewers still have their preferences working. >>>> >>>> That would be pretty cool. >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 4:44:31 AM UTC-4 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Charlie's post on browser storage ( >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l-1YLy0xpJo/m/mreI115qAgAJ) >>>>> prompted me to post a reminder about the official browser-storage plugin. >>>>> Charlie is exploring many interesting use cases for browser storage, but >>>>> that particular post covers the same functionality as the browser-storage >>>>> plugin. >>>>> >>>>> The browser-storage plugin automatically writes any modified tiddlers >>>>> to browser storage. It only writes tiddlers that match a filter, which >>>>> one >>>>> can set to [all[]] to save all tiddlers, or something >>>>> like [prefix[$:/state/]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] to just save state >>>>> tiddlers. >>>>> >>>>> At startup, the browser-storage plugin reads tiddlers from local >>>>> storage. Any tiddlers that are identical to those built into the file are >>>>> deleted from local storage. Once the wiki is up and running, any tiddler >>>>> changes are written straight to local storage. >>>>> >>>>> To try it out: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. Visit >>>>> >>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/full/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fbrowser-storage >>>>> 2. Click on the "settings" tab of the plugin >>>>> 3. Scroll down to the heading "Save Filter", and change it to >>>>> "[all[]]" >>>>> 4. Create or modify some tiddlers >>>>> 5. Refresh the page >>>>> 6. Observe how the changes are restored >>>>> >>>>> As discussed in the plugin readme, there are some gotchas with browser >>>>> storage, but it can still be useful in many situations. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a96db56b-045c-43ab-8fd3-47fbaf130464n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a96db56b-045c-43ab-8fd3-47fbaf130464n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/edeb8fc7-33b4-49fc-a99e-960244fc18a7n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/edeb8fc7-33b4-49fc-a99e-960244fc18a7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cdc72edc-9998-4d99-82ff-5b1e86079bb7n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cdc72edc-9998-4d99-82ff-5b1e86079bb7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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