Thank you Xavier. I'm closing this topic and will start another one on Talk about having localized server edition for the sake of it and not that of translating another edition.
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2021 à 14:40:17 UTC+2, [email protected] a écrit : > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > Embarrassingly, I'm not sure I still grasp the whole thing anymore. The > confusing thing is that the fr-FR server edition is not meant as an fr-FR > localisation of the server edition (nor any xx-YY-server editions by the > way). As far as I know, they are mostly useful when one wants to edit the > source of their xx-XX edition counterpart *in-place* (typically in a > dedicated git branch). > > With the help of > https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#tiddlywiki.info%20Files, it must be > possible to combine these editions in order to create a NodeJS wiki that is > bootstrapped with the payload tiddlers contained in these editions, but I > didn't succeed to write down a straightforward description of the process. > Maybe @pmario has a better understanding of these mechanisms? > > -- Xavier. > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 10:23 PM Jean-Pierre Rivière < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm sorry Xavier, but I've been unable to create any edition to see what >> you suggest would do. I haven't understood how to do it. Could you help me >> please? >> >> cheers, >> >> Le mercredi 15 septembre 2021 à 15:20:35 UTC+2, [email protected] a >> écrit : >> >>> Hi Jean-Pierre, >>> >>> Historically, the fr-FR and fr-FR-server editions were aimed at >>> providing a translated version of tw5.com. I had wanted to gather a >>> team of translators in order to achieve this, but I eventually gave up as >>> the task seemed too daunting. I focused instead on the fr-FR language >>> plugin. >>> >>> What you experience — tiddlers are saved in the fr-FR sub-directory >>> instead of the served wiki — is probably due to the >>> "default-tiddler-location": "../fr-FR/tiddlers" in the config of the >>> fr-FR-server edition. If you remove that before you --init a new wiki, you >>> will get a more natural behaviour. If you confirm that it solves the >>> problem, I'll propose a removal from the official edition. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Xavier Cazin. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:43 PM Jean-Pierre Rivière < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi @PMario and mauloop! >>>> >>>> I(ve taken my time but I can now bring some valuable new input. But >>>> before that, let me thank you for your answers. I've dipped deeper in >>>> docker and nodejs tiddlywiki as a result. And I can tell you that I've >>>> finally come to a successful setup but some problems are still there. But >>>> I >>>> can create an OK docker image and use it to launch it a suceesfull >>>> tiddlywiki and load stuff inside before really launching it as a server (I >>>> have not yet seen how to use apache as a proxy). >>>> >>>> So for the sake of answering my question, here is my Dockerfile: >>>> --------- >>>> # Dockerfile pour lancer le tiddlywiki proteva >>>> # copiée et adaptée du modèle elasticdog/tiddlywiki disponible sur le >>>> docker hub >>>> from node:16.9.0-alpine3.11 >>>> >>>> LABEL author="Jean-Pierre RIVIÈRE" >>>> LABEL content="instance de nodejs avec le tiddliwki proteva" >>>> >>>> env TIDDLYWIKI_VERSION=5.1.23 >>>> env PROTEVA_FEED=proteva-data.json >>>> env WORKDIR=/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki >>>> >>>> EXPOSE 8080 >>>> >>>> WORKDIR $WORKDIR >>>> VOLUME $WORKDIR >>>> >>>> run apk update && apk add --no-cache tini >>>> run npm install -g tiddlywiki@$TIDDLYWIKI_VERSION && npm install clean >>>> --force >>>> >>>> #ENTRYPOINT ["tiddlywiki", "proteva"] >>>> #CMD ["--listen", "host=0.0.0.0"] >>>> ENTRYPOINT ["/sbin/tini", "--"] >>>> CMD ["tiddlywiki", "proteva", "--listen", "host=0.0.0.0"] >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> and here is my proteva.sh script that I use to manage the wiki with >>>> ./proteva.sh init && ./proteva.sh start >>>> -------- >>>> #!/bin/sh >>>> # shell pour initialiser ou lancer proteva via docker >>>> >>>> IMAGE=proteva >>>> WIKI=$IMAGE >>>> PROTEVA_FEED=proteva-data.json >>>> PROTEVA_DIR=$PWD/proteva-data >>>> WORKDIR=/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki >>>> EDITION=rerver >>>> >>>> case $1 in >>>> init) >>>> echo wiping $PROTEVA_DIR >>>> [ -d $PROTEVA_DIR ] && sudo rm -rf $PROTEVA_DIR >>>> mkdir $PROTEVA_DIR >>>> echo building $IMAGE docker image >>>> sudo docker build . -t $IMAGE >>>> echo built >>>> sudo docker run --rm -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR $IMAGE tiddlywiki >>>> $WIKI --init $EDITION >>>> echo initialized >>>> cp $PROTEVA_FEED $PROTEVA_DIR >>>> sudo docker run --rm -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR $IMAGE tiddlywiki >>>> $WIKI --load $PROTEVA_FEED >>>> rm $PROTEVA_DIR/$PROTEVA_FEED >>>> echo import done >>>> ;; >>>> start) >>>> [ -d $PROTEVA_DIR ] || mkdir $PROTEVA_DIR >>>> sudo docker run --rm -it -p 8080:8080 -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR >>>> --name $WIKI $IMAGE tiddlywiki $WIKI --listen host=0.0.0.0 >>>> ;; >>>> *) echo "usage : ${0##/} ORDER" >>>> echo ' where ORDER is either "init" or "start"' >>>> echo ' to initialize or launch proteva tiddlywiki nodejs via >>>> docker.' >>>> ;; >>>> esac >>>> ---------------- >>>> >>>> Now for the remaining problem: the fr-FR-server edition seems at fault. >>>> If I use iti instead of server (as value of the EDITION variable in the >>>> script)' the --init and --listen part is OK (launching the "proteva" >>>> wiki), >>>> the --load part is wrong for the data are copied in the fr-FR >>>> sub-directory >>>> (instead of the proteva sub-directory). Besides, I can't see any French >>>> with that edition. >>>> >>>> the real command I use is: >>>> >>>> sudo docker run --rm -v >>>> /home/jnpr/big/workspace/accessibilite/dockerized/proteva-data:/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki >>>> >>>> proteva tiddlywiki proteva --load proteva-data.json >>>> >>>> This commands create this strucure all of its own: >>>> >>>> proteva-data >>>> ├── fr-FR >>>> │ └── tiddlers >>>> │ ├── $__StoryList.tid >>>> │ └── TODO.tid >>>> >>>> (proteva-data is created previously along proteva-data/proteva by >>>> --init) >>>> >>>> Where can I get the fr-FR sources/fellows of this project to help sort >>>> out this mystery? >>>> >>>> Le dimanche 12 septembre 2021 à 00:59:09 UTC+2, mauloop a écrit : >>>> >>>>> I published on Github a little project to run Tiddlyserver with >>>>> Docker. You can find it at >>>>> https://github.com/mauloop/tiddlyserver-docker. >>>>> It allows multiple wikis within a single server instance and custom >>>>> editions path. >>>>> >>>>> I made it for my own use, so it does not provide very rich >>>>> documentation, but just a quick and dirty readme with minimum commands >>>>> needed to get started. However it could fit some of your requirements. >>>>> >>>>> Finally here is good example about how to set up Apache to proxy a >>>>> Nodejs TW5 <https://nicolaw.uk/#:TiddlyWikiApacheProxy%20Hello>. I >>>>> think it could work with TiddlyServer too with very little changes, but I >>>>> never experienced this. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this could help. Have fun, )+(auloop >>>>> >>>>> Il giorno giovedì 9 settembre 2021 alle 23:23:54 UTC+2 >>>>> [email protected] ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everybody! >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to have some of my tiddlywiki being onto nodejs to gain some >>>>>> functionality. For this, I have selected docker to have iti as easy as I >>>>>> can. Besides docker, I need some shell script to setup the wiki (docker >>>>>> images) ready to launch (listen command). Good point: this was an >>>>>> occasion >>>>>> for me to invest into docker. >>>>>> >>>>>> But there remains a problem, which is that of the tiddlywiki edition. >>>>>> the "editions" command list the available options with a quick summary. >>>>>> But >>>>>> some options would gain a little more explanations, like the >>>>>> server-external-js which seems to mean that the js is not mangled inside >>>>>> the js. That could be useful to serve several wikis from the same server. >>>>>> >>>>>> But in fact, I need a localized edition. Alas, editions are not >>>>>> cumulative (but the server-external-js really should be an option and >>>>>> not a >>>>>> proper edition because that's not an editorial difference at all and it >>>>>> could be useful for many editions). >>>>>> >>>>>> By localized, I mean that I want the content in French, but without >>>>>> all the fuss of fr-FR editions which I would need to get rid of but for >>>>>> a >>>>>> few tiddlers (and this would be a burden to implement and maintain). As >>>>>> for >>>>>> the fr-FR-server, the interface has not been translated (I wonder what >>>>>> has >>>>>> been translated and where I could find this information?) >>>>>> >>>>>> docker code used (without the volume and port stuff) on my tiddlywiki >>>>>> docker image tiddock: >>>>>> >>>>>> docker run -d --rm tiddock wiki --init fr-FR-server >>>>>> docker run -d --rm tiddock server host=0.0.0.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> (I used elasticdog Dockerfile and shells to see what was needed to >>>>>> do. Thanks elasticdog!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, if I understand what is said here, I must not directly use >>>>>> tiddlywiki for a production wiki but use a proxy liki nginx can provide. >>>>>> I >>>>>> have no knowledge of nginx so far. 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