Hi Jean-Pierre,
Per the tree of the TW5 source:
src/
└── TiddlyWiki5
(...)
├── editions
│ ├── fr-FR
│ │ ├── tiddlers
│ │ │ ├── (a few translated tiddlers from tw5.com)
│ │ └── tiddlywiki.info
│ ├── fr-FR-server
│ │ ├── tiddlers
│ │ │ ├── config-Navigation-UpdateAddressBar.tid
│ │ │ ├── config-more-button.tid
│ │ │ └── system
│ │ │ ├── favicon.ico
│ │ │ └── favicon.ico.meta
│ │ └── tiddlywiki.info
│ (...)
└── tiddlywiki.js
you may want to study the *config* parameter in the *tiddlywiki.info
<http://tiddlywiki.info>* files.
Cheers,
-- Xavier Cazin.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:55 PM Jean-Pierre Rivière <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Xavier,
>
> Thanks for your telling. I found only one occurence
> of default-tiddler-location and that's in $:/boot/boot.js
> <http://localhost:8080/#%24%3A%2Fboot%2Fboot.js> :
>
> if ($tw.boot.wikiPath == wikiPath) { $tw.boot.wikiTiddlersPath =
> path.resolve($tw.boot.wikiPath,config["default-tiddler-location"] ||
> $tw.config.wikiTiddlersSubDir); }
>
> Well... so what? Where is the change I should made? Is that a modification
> within $:/core/modules/config.js ? I have not found any reference to fr-FR
> so I assume it was deducted from the name of the file/plugin.
>
> Where are the sources for fr-FR and fr-FR-server?
>
> I have found the same problem with es-ES-server and ko-KR-server which are
> the two only other translated server editions.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 15 septembre 2021 à 15:20:35 UTC+2, [email protected] a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>>
>> Historically, the fr-FR and fr-FR-server editions were aimed at providing
>> a translated version of tw5.com. I had wanted to gather a team of
>> translators in order to achieve this, but I eventually gave up as the task
>> seemed too daunting. I focused instead on the fr-FR language plugin.
>>
>> What you experience — tiddlers are saved in the fr-FR sub-directory
>> instead of the served wiki — is probably due to the
>> "default-tiddler-location": "../fr-FR/tiddlers" in the config of the
>> fr-FR-server edition. If you remove that before you --init a new wiki, you
>> will get a more natural behaviour. If you confirm that it solves the
>> problem, I'll propose a removal from the official edition.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- Xavier Cazin.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:43 PM Jean-Pierre Rivière <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi @PMario and mauloop!
>>>
>>> I(ve taken my time but I can now bring some valuable new input. But
>>> before that, let me thank you for your answers. I've dipped deeper in
>>> docker and nodejs tiddlywiki as a result. And I can tell you that I've
>>> finally come to a successful setup but some problems are still there. But I
>>> can create an OK docker image and use it to launch it a suceesfull
>>> tiddlywiki and load stuff inside before really launching it as a server (I
>>> have not yet seen how to use apache as a proxy).
>>>
>>> So for the sake of answering my question, here is my Dockerfile:
>>> ---------
>>> # Dockerfile pour lancer le tiddlywiki proteva
>>> # copiée et adaptée du modèle elasticdog/tiddlywiki disponible sur le
>>> docker hub
>>> from node:16.9.0-alpine3.11
>>>
>>> LABEL author="Jean-Pierre RIVIÈRE"
>>> LABEL content="instance de nodejs avec le tiddliwki proteva"
>>>
>>> env TIDDLYWIKI_VERSION=5.1.23
>>> env PROTEVA_FEED=proteva-data.json
>>> env WORKDIR=/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki
>>>
>>> EXPOSE 8080
>>>
>>> WORKDIR $WORKDIR
>>> VOLUME $WORKDIR
>>>
>>> run apk update && apk add --no-cache tini
>>> run npm install -g tiddlywiki@$TIDDLYWIKI_VERSION && npm install clean
>>> --force
>>>
>>> #ENTRYPOINT ["tiddlywiki", "proteva"]
>>> #CMD ["--listen", "host=0.0.0.0"]
>>> ENTRYPOINT ["/sbin/tini", "--"]
>>> CMD ["tiddlywiki", "proteva", "--listen", "host=0.0.0.0"]
>>> ------
>>>
>>> and here is my proteva.sh script that I use to manage the wiki with
>>> ./proteva.sh init && ./proteva.sh start
>>> --------
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> # shell pour initialiser ou lancer proteva via docker
>>>
>>> IMAGE=proteva
>>> WIKI=$IMAGE
>>> PROTEVA_FEED=proteva-data.json
>>> PROTEVA_DIR=$PWD/proteva-data
>>> WORKDIR=/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki
>>> EDITION=rerver
>>>
>>> case $1 in
>>> init)
>>> echo wiping $PROTEVA_DIR
>>> [ -d $PROTEVA_DIR ] && sudo rm -rf $PROTEVA_DIR
>>> mkdir $PROTEVA_DIR
>>> echo building $IMAGE docker image
>>> sudo docker build . -t $IMAGE
>>> echo built
>>> sudo docker run --rm -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR $IMAGE tiddlywiki
>>> $WIKI --init $EDITION
>>> echo initialized
>>> cp $PROTEVA_FEED $PROTEVA_DIR
>>> sudo docker run --rm -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR $IMAGE tiddlywiki
>>> $WIKI --load $PROTEVA_FEED
>>> rm $PROTEVA_DIR/$PROTEVA_FEED
>>> echo import done
>>> ;;
>>> start)
>>> [ -d $PROTEVA_DIR ] || mkdir $PROTEVA_DIR
>>> sudo docker run --rm -it -p 8080:8080 -v $PROTEVA_DIR:$WORKDIR
>>> --name $WIKI $IMAGE tiddlywiki $WIKI --listen host=0.0.0.0
>>> ;;
>>> *) echo "usage : ${0##/} ORDER"
>>> echo ' where ORDER is either "init" or "start"'
>>> echo ' to initialize or launch proteva tiddlywiki nodejs via
>>> docker.'
>>> ;;
>>> esac
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> Now for the remaining problem: the fr-FR-server edition seems at fault.
>>> If I use iti instead of server (as value of the EDITION variable in the
>>> script)' the --init and --listen part is OK (launching the "proteva" wiki),
>>> the --load part is wrong for the data are copied in the fr-FR sub-directory
>>> (instead of the proteva sub-directory). Besides, I can't see any French
>>> with that edition.
>>>
>>> the real command I use is:
>>>
>>> sudo docker run --rm -v
>>> /home/jnpr/big/workspace/accessibilite/dockerized/proteva-data:/usr/share/tiddlywiki/proteva-wiki
>>> proteva tiddlywiki proteva --load proteva-data.json
>>>
>>> This commands create this strucure all of its own:
>>>
>>> proteva-data
>>> ├── fr-FR
>>> │ └── tiddlers
>>> │ ├── $__StoryList.tid
>>> │ └── TODO.tid
>>>
>>> (proteva-data is created previously along proteva-data/proteva by --init)
>>>
>>> Where can I get the fr-FR sources/fellows of this project to help sort
>>> out this mystery?
>>>
>>> Le dimanche 12 septembre 2021 à 00:59:09 UTC+2, mauloop a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I published on Github a little project to run Tiddlyserver with Docker.
>>>> You can find it at https://github.com/mauloop/tiddlyserver-docker.
>>>> It allows multiple wikis within a single server instance and custom
>>>> editions path.
>>>>
>>>> I made it for my own use, so it does not provide very rich
>>>> documentation, but just a quick and dirty readme with minimum commands
>>>> needed to get started. However it could fit some of your requirements.
>>>>
>>>> Finally here is good example about how to set up Apache to proxy a
>>>> Nodejs TW5 <https://nicolaw.uk/#:TiddlyWikiApacheProxy%20Hello>. I
>>>> think it could work with TiddlyServer too with very little changes, but I
>>>> never experienced this.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this could help. Have fun, )+(auloop
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno giovedì 9 settembre 2021 alle 23:23:54 UTC+2
>>>> [email protected] ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody!
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to have some of my tiddlywiki being onto nodejs to gain some
>>>>> functionality. For this, I have selected docker to have iti as easy as I
>>>>> can. Besides docker, I need some shell script to setup the wiki (docker
>>>>> images) ready to launch (listen command). Good point: this was an occasion
>>>>> for me to invest into docker.
>>>>>
>>>>> But there remains a problem, which is that of the tiddlywiki edition.
>>>>> the "editions" command list the available options with a quick summary.
>>>>> But
>>>>> some options would gain a little more explanations, like the
>>>>> server-external-js which seems to mean that the js is not mangled inside
>>>>> the js. That could be useful to serve several wikis from the same server.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in fact, I need a localized edition. Alas, editions are not
>>>>> cumulative (but the server-external-js really should be an option and not
>>>>> a
>>>>> proper edition because that's not an editorial difference at all and it
>>>>> could be useful for many editions).
>>>>>
>>>>> By localized, I mean that I want the content in French, but without
>>>>> all the fuss of fr-FR editions which I would need to get rid of but for a
>>>>> few tiddlers (and this would be a burden to implement and maintain). As
>>>>> for
>>>>> the fr-FR-server, the interface has not been translated (I wonder what has
>>>>> been translated and where I could find this information?)
>>>>>
>>>>> docker code used (without the volume and port stuff) on my tiddlywiki
>>>>> docker image tiddock:
>>>>>
>>>>> docker run -d --rm tiddock wiki --init fr-FR-server
>>>>> docker run -d --rm tiddock server host=0.0.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>> (I used elasticdog Dockerfile and shells to see what was needed to do.
>>>>> Thanks elasticdog!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if I understand what is said here, I must not directly use
>>>>> tiddlywiki for a production wiki but use a proxy liki nginx can provide. I
>>>>> have no knowledge of nginx so far. Where could I find some useful docs or
>>>>> sources of a tiddlywiki with this kind of setup?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>
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