Seems like some pretty solid ideas to look at, particularly the indicators. I can imagine a simple indicator as just a loop to send a tw notify event to display some text.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 8:58 PM TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote: > Flanc > > Just some thoughts while you are working on this. > > > - As I hinted at before, in a similar manner to changing language or > issuing commands I would love to be able to "OK tiddlywiki" from a > listening state. Apart from the fact is allows a keyword activation it does > celebrate the integration of these tools with tiddlywiki and in somways > "personifies" tiddlywiki. > - I am not sure if you noticed yet but even having a keyword entry can > cause problems. I have heard both Siri and Google start responding out of > context when they have misheard and they have activation phrases. I imagine > a stop word would be good too, for when someone enters the room. > - My thoughts would be if in a edit text field transcribe there, if > not create the new tiddler and transcribe in there. The button activation > would be an alternative to "OK Tiddlywiki" when this is inactive. > > In a recent post I am also looking at a UI addition of indicators, Thus > you could leverage this with a tiddler tagged "$:/tags/indicator" to > display listening or dictation states as well as a trigger in a diminutive > icon on the side bar or other locations like the menu bar. All you need do > is create the matching button/indicators. > > Regards > Tones > On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 09:55:56 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote: > >> If while learning a language or practicing translation; >> >> We could speak words out loud in the language we are learning and get >> immediate feedback, in that language, and translated to our own language, >> it would be a way to practice without exposing ourselves in front of >> others. If the translator recognises our words then perhaps we know how to >> speak? >> >> Regards >> Tones >> On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 01:50:55 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> The NATO Phonetic Alphabet is a great example of something that may >>> never be implemented as part of the plug-in, but could easily be achieved >>> by custom commands! >>> >>> I think there’s just so much flexibility with the plug-in to do new and >>> amazing things, so I really love when people like @R2 give ideas like that! >>> >>> BurningTreeC and I will continue to make these crazy ideas a reality, as >>> we have been doing! >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 10:46 AM BurningTreeC <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi @R² ... I kinda like the idea of the NATO phonetic alphabet :) >>>> >>>> [email protected] schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 15:33:06 >>>> UTC+2: >>>> >>>>> I know I’ve said it so many times already, but thank you so much for >>>>> your support! This is truly the first GitHub project that I’ve had this >>>>> many users for, and I along with BTC intend to keep the plug-in updated >>>>> and >>>>> always cutting-edge in features! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:26 AM [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @flanc, I tested it once more- after importing the danish language >>>>>> plugin and it did write some sentences correct...and some rather amusing. >>>>>> It will be very useable though. In fact it is much better than I had >>>>>> hoped >>>>>> for, Danish being used by so few people. So nice, I know I will use this >>>>>> a >>>>>> lot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you so much for all the work you and BurningTreeC are doing on >>>>>> this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Birthe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:03:56 PM UTC+2 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> @Strikke…, yes. Any language shown on the demo is theoretically be >>>>>>> supported by the plug-in. I’m not sure if there is a Danish translation >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> TW. With my new idea to just use the TW language, there may be some >>>>>>> limitation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:01 AM [email protected] < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi flanc, >>>>>>>> I followed the link to Web Speech API >>>>>>>> <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi.html> >>>>>>>> Demonstration. >>>>>>>> Danish can be used, will it also be possible to use it using your >>>>>>>> plugin >>>>>>>> with Danish? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Birthe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 2:11:12 PM UTC+2 >>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Love the feedback! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Something to do with the language names. Each of those language >>>>>>>>> names were decided rather carefully, since, for example, catalan was >>>>>>>>> understood in a different word every time, but the word "catalonian" >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> transcribed with perfect accuracy. One possible solution would be to >>>>>>>>> test >>>>>>>>> for a variety of different words that sound like the keyword, similar >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> what BTC did with the new "Ok Wiki" functionality, and that would >>>>>>>>> require >>>>>>>>> you awesome folks to test the words, and report back what they are >>>>>>>>> transcribed as. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In addition to this, I forgot to add, there are multiple variants >>>>>>>>> of several languages, such as english US, UK, Australian, South >>>>>>>>> African; >>>>>>>>> spanish Spain, etc. etc. I plan to add all of this functionality >>>>>>>>> sometime >>>>>>>>> soon, as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For all of the languages the API supports that my little wrapper >>>>>>>>> program could easily be changed to modify, they are listed in this >>>>>>>>> StackOverflow post: https://stackoverflow.com/a/23733589/14719982. >>>>>>>>> Feel free to speak the translated language names into the plugin, and >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> what they are transcribed as. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Since the default lang I have set is English-US, the language >>>>>>>>> names must sadly be translated into English to be understood, such as >>>>>>>>> Espanol to Spanish. This also accounts for maybe "improper" languages >>>>>>>>> names, as pointed out.) >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 4:41:54 AM UTC-4 BurningTreeC >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello all, I've now changed the *Command *command to *Ok Wiki* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've made it also detect Okay Vicky, Ok WC, and more keywords ... >>>>>>>>>> If those of you who are testing this would report any other keywords >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> should add, that would be a great help >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What should work right now is *Ok Wiki change language to >>>>>>>>>> <<language>> *and *Ok Wiki stop talking* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 10:28:45 >>>>>>>>>> UTC+2: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ciao Flanc... & BTC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *SIDE NOTES ON API BEHAVIOR* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This does not effect anything YOU two are doing. Merely >>>>>>>>>>> observations on the "behaviours" of the recognitions. >>>>>>>>>>> But I do think it is useful to understand the end-product the >>>>>>>>>>> API issues forth. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *1 -* There are occasional QUIRKY things that happen that have >>>>>>>>>>> no clear rationale. For instance if you dictate "cat dog mouse >>>>>>>>>>> horse" you >>>>>>>>>>> get back ... "cat dog Mouse horse". Maybe mice, or mouses, >>>>>>>>>>> actually rule the universe as "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" >>>>>>>>>>> contended"? >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1MmQjXrkwp98jNdc17j3tr3/mice> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *2 -* Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are >>>>>>>>>>> simply DISCARDED. (For instance in Italian mode most dictated >>>>>>>>>>> English words >>>>>>>>>>> are just ignored). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *3 - * Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are >>>>>>>>>>> capitalized as Proper Names. There is some very clever thing going >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> inside the recog. machine that decides when to do this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> None of these minor points change anything other than the need >>>>>>>>>>> to be slightly aware the API does stuff and awareness of that is >>>>>>>>>>> helpful I >>>>>>>>>>> think. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll may add more comments about these behaviors after I used it >>>>>>>>>>> more, if there any other obvious ones. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>>>>> TT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/3O0eT4K5mkI/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1059a0eb-2708-4946-b04f-84a6e320c4dcn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1059a0eb-2708-4946-b04f-84a6e320c4dcn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/af5ec459-8703-41f4-bb09-77f68353ed52n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/af5ec459-8703-41f4-bb09-77f68353ed52n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f499da9f-69bf-4e49-ae28-40b8c4ae0019n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f499da9f-69bf-4e49-ae28-40b8c4ae0019n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb7fac57-3d38-4476-8dbe-b480ae36777bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb7fac57-3d38-4476-8dbe-b480ae36777bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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