Yikes, did I ever take the scenic route. +1 from me for sure. That's a great idea.
More user friendly to "blank out" (opt-out of?) a preexisting splash screen if one doesn't want it than it is to set it all up from scratch when one wants a splash screen. And way convenient to personalise a preexisting splash screen. On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 6:59:39 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Charlie et al, > > Yes, My suggestion is to use the existing splash screen method and put a > low fi one into the empty.html so all wikis have a minimalistic one > installed. Owners/designers can remove or customise the splash screen as > they wish. > > > - The key reason to place it in the standard distribution is because > users with lower internet speeds, or as wikis grow larger, it becomes > necessary, to avoid people abandoning the link to a tiddlywiki. It is well > known that people can give up following a link if they find they are > waiting a few seconds. Because this is not already in place in every wiki, > I have already abandoned following some tiddlywiki links with my current > diminished internet speeds, and I know they have to load before they > become > interactive, where every day internet users do not. > - We do not want published tiddlywikis to look broken as a rule, it > will effect its reputation. > - Empty.html represents a minimum standard for tiddlywiki from which > many build a wiki, thus it makes sense if we are trying to set a minimum > standard. > - The next best would be a core plugin to install a minimal splash > screen. > > Regards > Tones > > On Monday, 28 June 2021 at 03:29:41 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote: > >> BTW, refresh the page for that link, and you'll notice for a split second >> that the red area displays the TiddlyWiki splash screen (the one Eric >> points to.) >> >> Tones: I figured you already knew about the TiddlyWiki splash screen >> approach, and were looking for a little something more ? >> >> Or were you just simply suggesting that splash screen be setup in >> TiddlyWiki empty.html by default, so that folk just need to customise >> something that is already setup, instead of having to set it all up from >> scratch? >> >> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:55:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: >> >>> Oh yeah, "loader" in action: >>> https://leptitaurele.neocities.org/TiddlyWiki_Loader.html >>> >>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:48:56 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: >>> >>>> Until a non-technical/friendly solution comes along ... >>>> >>>> Sounds like the quickest thing to do at the moment, I think, is to have >>>> a dinky "loader" html page that loads a TiddlyWiki in an iframe, keeping >>>> the iframe hidden until TiddlyWiki is fully loaded, and showing splash in >>>> the meantime. >>>> >>>> I imagine that needs some javascript, and me not being a fan, Ieave >>>> that to somebody else. >>>> >>>> Here's something I cobbled together quickly, just for the giggles, as a >>>> starting point (Largely a copy paste from >>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/325273/make-iframe-to-fit-100-of-containers-remaining-height >>>> ): >>>> >>>> <html> >>>> <head> >>>> <title> Le P'tit Aurèle, un lexique acadien</title> >>>> <style> >>>> body, html {width: 100%; height: 100%; margin: 0; padding: 0} >>>> .first-row {position: absolute;top: 0; left: 0; right: 0; >>>> height: 100px; background-color: lime;} >>>> .second-row {position: absolute; top: 100px; left: 0; right: >>>> 0; bottom: 0; background-color: red } >>>> .second-row iframe {display: block; width: 100%; height: >>>> 100%; border: none;} >>>> </style> >>>> </head> >>>> <body> >>>> <div class="first-row"> >>>> <p>The TiddlyWiki is loading</p> >>>> </div> >>>> <div class="second-row"> >>>> <iframe src=" >>>> https://leptitaurele.neocities.org/LePtitAurele_PreviousVersion.html >>>> "></iframe> >>>> </div> >>>> </body> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 10:02:42 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Folks, >>>>> >>>>> I have currently got the unhappy situation where my broadband provider >>>>> has failed to move my broadband to my new address. Broken beaurocracy is >>>>> on >>>>> of my biggest frustrations. >>>>> >>>>> What this means is I am running at less than 1MB internet access, and >>>>> I thought I would share the fact that many tiddlywikis look like they are >>>>> broken when no loading splash screen is available. >>>>> >>>>> So I would like to suggest not only Add a splash screen to large >>>>> wikis, a must, but perhaps even add them to all internet published wikis. >>>>> >>>>> If you agree please thumbs up here >>>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5827 >>>>> >>>>> Tones >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/18edc7c2-884a-4d19-b719-05f0eccf2770n%40googlegroups.com.
