Charlie et al,
Yes, My suggestion is to use the existing splash screen method and put a
low fi one into the empty.html so all wikis have a minimalistic one
installed. Owners/designers can remove or customise the splash screen as
they wish.
- The key reason to place it in the standard distribution is because
users with lower internet speeds, or as wikis grow larger, it becomes
necessary, to avoid people abandoning the link to a tiddlywiki. It is well
known that people can give up following a link if they find they are
waiting a few seconds. Because this is not already in place in every wiki,
I have already abandoned following some tiddlywiki links with my current
diminished internet speeds, and I know they have to load before they become
interactive, where every day internet users do not.
- We do not want published tiddlywikis to look broken as a rule, it will
effect its reputation.
- Empty.html represents a minimum standard for tiddlywiki from which
many build a wiki, thus it makes sense if we are trying to set a minimum
standard.
- The next best would be a core plugin to install a minimal splash
screen.
Regards
Tones
On Monday, 28 June 2021 at 03:29:41 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
> BTW, refresh the page for that link, and you'll notice for a split second
> that the red area displays the TiddlyWiki splash screen (the one Eric
> points to.)
>
> Tones: I figured you already knew about the TiddlyWiki splash screen
> approach, and were looking for a little something more ?
>
> Or were you just simply suggesting that splash screen be setup in
> TiddlyWiki empty.html by default, so that folk just need to customise
> something that is already setup, instead of having to set it all up from
> scratch?
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:55:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah, "loader" in action:
>> https://leptitaurele.neocities.org/TiddlyWiki_Loader.html
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:48:56 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> Until a non-technical/friendly solution comes along ...
>>>
>>> Sounds like the quickest thing to do at the moment, I think, is to have
>>> a dinky "loader" html page that loads a TiddlyWiki in an iframe, keeping
>>> the iframe hidden until TiddlyWiki is fully loaded, and showing splash in
>>> the meantime.
>>>
>>> I imagine that needs some javascript, and me not being a fan, Ieave that
>>> to somebody else.
>>>
>>> Here's something I cobbled together quickly, just for the giggles, as a
>>> starting point (Largely a copy paste from
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/325273/make-iframe-to-fit-100-of-containers-remaining-height
>>> ):
>>>
>>> <html>
>>> <head>
>>> <title> Le P'tit Aurèle, un lexique acadien</title>
>>> <style>
>>> body, html {width: 100%; height: 100%; margin: 0; padding: 0}
>>> .first-row {position: absolute;top: 0; left: 0; right: 0;
>>> height: 100px; background-color: lime;}
>>> .second-row {position: absolute; top: 100px; left: 0; right:
>>> 0; bottom: 0; background-color: red }
>>> .second-row iframe {display: block; width: 100%; height: 100%;
>>> border: none;}
>>> </style>
>>> </head>
>>> <body>
>>> <div class="first-row">
>>> <p>The TiddlyWiki is loading</p>
>>> </div>
>>> <div class="second-row">
>>> <iframe src="
>>> https://leptitaurele.neocities.org/LePtitAurele_PreviousVersion.html
>>> "></iframe>
>>> </div>
>>> </body>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 10:02:42 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have currently got the unhappy situation where my broadband provider
>>>> has failed to move my broadband to my new address. Broken beaurocracy is
>>>> on
>>>> of my biggest frustrations.
>>>>
>>>> What this means is I am running at less than 1MB internet access, and I
>>>> thought I would share the fact that many tiddlywikis look like they are
>>>> broken when no loading splash screen is available.
>>>>
>>>> So I would like to suggest not only Add a splash screen to large wikis,
>>>> a must, but perhaps even add them to all internet published wikis.
>>>>
>>>> If you agree please thumbs up here
>>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5827
>>>>
>>>> Tones
>>>>
>>>
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