@Mat: oh no

The idea of a community repo is to ensure a parallel system of testing
visual changes, documentation and other feature sets without bothering
Jeremy for every silly thing. Pushing the important changes to core while
keeping the rest in a community repo mirroring main repo, will keep the
main repo clean.

I have not done this for two reasons

1. Such a community repo should be owned by members much senior to me.
Somebody who has intimate knowledge of wikitext and JavaScript. A
organisational Repo can have more than one owner - So may be 3 owners.

2. Even such a move should have Jeremy's go ahead. Because unlike
individual plugin repos, organisational repos based on TW5 is a more
serious affair.

If such an community repo becomes real, there can be teams under that with
jobs assigned to review new documentation and may be even a curated plugin
list. I would my time and knowledge in whatever way I can to such an
endeavour, but not initiative.

I have learned well from Reddit experience :)

Sincerely,
Riz



On Thu, 21 May 2020, 16:43 Mat, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Edgaras wrote:
>>
>> - Arrows are for navigating back and forward, which tiddler you visited
>> the latest (clicking on links). I updated arrows to look less like
>> redo/undo.
>>
>
> That indicates your vision is a single tiddler view mode - ? I would
> definitely not like this for default TW because it makes open data much
> more difficult to access.
>
>
>
>> - Icons and background I need to test. I was not fan of the original
>> icons, but maybe that's bias, I will try them on the new layout.
>>
>
> I believe, the icons are custom made by Jeremy. I personally like them but
> a big disadvantage is that one cannot easily find new icons with a similar
> style. The optimal would either be if we had a custom made, very rich set (
> ref <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3388>) or, more
> easily, just use some rich open source alternative.
>
>
>
>> - I think we need some general consideration around system tiddlers. I
>> think there could be a way to seperate content and system tiddlers. I've
>> seen some interesting theme, where tiddlers were in the sidebar, I think
>> some system tiddlers could be pinned to the sidebar, so they are always at
>> reach.
>>
>
> I'm not sure what you mean here with system tiddlers. System tiddlers are
> (simply!) tiddlers that have the prefix $:/ and this hides them from
> showing up in most lists. In my post to which you reply, I bring up system
> fields, i.e the few "reserved words/names" that are used for data fields in
> the system.
>
>
>
>> - Even if TW is for personal use, it does not have to be messy... Many
>> people want to have a distraction free writing and thinking experience.
>> That's the key for me. The "prettiness" come from practicality, hiding
>> things that you don't use too often. It's a balance yet to be found,
>> through iterations we will find way to prioritise more used items and make
>> them more visible.
>>
>
> We need to consider both "writing" and "using".... actually, for writing,
> we should perhaps even differentiate between typing text (e.g a markup'ed
> poem) and more complex "WikiTexting" where you need access to tools and you
> need to look up titles for other tiddlers, etc. The former, i.e the typing
> of simple text would benefit from distraction free (I like the OMM
> interface <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0rI9Is4z1Y>, old video I know
> but those click sounds and the music... aaaah) - but WikiTexting probably
> can't be quite that.
>
>
> Again, it helps to be more specific – here I agree with you, sidebar
>> should be more prominent, probably open by the default. I will work on
>> sidebar.
>>
>
> One could imagine a toggle up in corner for e.g "distraction free light
> markup", "full WikiTexting with direct tool access", "full on display of
> all features"
>
>
> - Yes, toolbar needs to be re-introduced, I forgot in this iteration. My
>> take on toolbar is like this:
>>           a. It should be possible to hide toolbar by default. (Maybe
>> already is, but I want that on the spot)
>>
>
> I like "hover to show" but I know Jeremy is not fond of this because he
> thinks it is problematic on touch screens... yet, it is commonly used on
> touch screens where, if I recall, it instead is "touch to show".
>
>
>
>>           b. Balloon popup toolbox is super good idea. I would use that a
>> lot when toolbar is hidden (also should be possible to customize on the
>> spot, maybe small link icon that leads to settings.)
>>
>
> Yeah, I find that controls should be as close to *here *as possible AND
> also collected in a central place. TW and transclusion is perfect for this;
> dispersed doses of local control for the context AN D a central
> Controlplanel aggregating them all.
>
>
> Referring back to @Riz point; maybe this discussion should be moved into a
> Github repo (you created one, right @Riz?). The thread is split up here so
> it is difficult to navigate to what is mentioned.
>
> <:-)
>
> <:-)
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