> 1. Despite tiddlyfox disappearing entirely from Firefox addon store, it is > still documented as one of the main saving mechanisms for Tiddlywiki. >
Yes. In particular this line *Firefox provides the best user experience for using TiddlyWiki <https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki> with the TiddlyFox <https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyFox> browser extension.* Needs changing to some thing like *Firefox with the TiddlyFox <https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyFox> browser extension used to be the preferred method of accessing single file TiddlyWikis. Ever since FF57 this method has been deprecated. But it can still be used in conjunction with older versions of FireFox as outlined in the following:* Hmm. Where can people get TiddlyFox? Does anyone know the github home? > 2. What is the actual point of "Getting started" tiddlers? All but the > main getting started tiddlers are way outdated and provides false > information. I already pointed out the "Getting started Firefox" and > "Getting started Android" issues. Now look at "Getting started - Chrome" > > https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Chrome > > The first sentence says only HTML fallback mechanism works in Chrome. This > is false info and other saver mechanisms are documented in TW5 itself. > > You're right. "Getting Started" with Firefox and with Chrome are irrelevant. What matters is that the saving technique you pick will work with the browser you use. So it's the information associated with saving mechanisms that matter. You can click on the blue buttons and filter the saving techniques. However, there's no note to that effect. So most newcomers aren't going to even know that they can do that. My feeling is that ONLY the default mechanism should be presented. Short simple directions, with the last part being something like: *Some people find this approach inconvenient. There are other solutions that may work for you better, depending on your platform and browser preferences:* *1. For Mac: TiddlyDesktop, Timimi, file-backups ...* *2. For Windows TiddlyDesktop, Timimi, filebackups ...* *3. For Linux: TiddlyDesktop, Timimi ...* *4. For Android: Tiddloid, Node with Termux...* *5. For Iphone/Ipad: Quine .... * 4. Most of the examples of filters in TW5 uses "sort". sortan is more > advanced and natural with respect to non-technical users. However it is > hard to find because user have to specifically search for it. So much so > that even experienced TW5 users forgot about its existence. I suggest we > change all filter examples from sort to sortan. > > Might take awhile to hunt them all down. And the examples would need to be tested to make sure they still work. Obviously, you wouldn't change the example for the "sort" filter. > Need for reorganisation > > 5. I know "Getting started" is one of the default tiddlers. However in the > TOC organization, it appears in "Working with Tiddlywiki". For a newbie who > accidentally closed the Getting started tiddler, one of the first places he > will look in will be Table of contents. I say we retag the "Getting > started" with HelloThere and push it to the top. > > Sounds OK. > 6. Is there a definite criteria for matters to be tagged. This is my > understanding from the main site > > - HelloThere introduces and explains the philosophical aspects of > tiddlywiki > - "Working with Tiddlywiki" explains basic tasks. > - "Learning" explains more advanced tasks > - Customisation should ideally involve things you can do regarding styles, > things you can achieve with CSS, color palettes. > > Are there specific examples where the pattern is broken? > Points below is based on this understanding. > > 7. "Working with Tiddlywiki" should come before "Learning"? Because it is > much more basic. > > > 8. "Philosophy of tiddlers" should be under "HelloThere" with all other > explanations - not under learning > > 9. https://tiddlywiki.com/#TaskManagementExampleDraggableTemplate does > not require "Learning" tag > > This sounds reasonable. I don't think it will change the user's experience much, but no harm. > 10. Suggested title changes > "How to hide the author's and other fields with CSS" to "How to hide > author/date/other parts of viewtemplate with CSS" > "Simple ways to write protect tiddlers" to "How to write protect > tiddlers" > > Maybe "write-protect" . 11. Export tiddlers, Adopt a title policy - these two should be under > "Working with Tiddlywiki" because these are basic things and one of the > first things people might look for. > > 12. "How to Customize TiddlyDesktop" should be under Customisation > > > 13. https://tiddlywiki.com/#Scalability is a claim. There should be links > to specific instances of such Wikis IMO. > > The question is, are there any public examples? I do have my 60,000 obscure language dictionary. 14. There is a need for rearranging Learning and Working with Tiddlywiki. > Things like "Task Management example" and is variations should be together > and they should also link to community resources that implemented complex > task management systems. > Not sure what all this would apply to exactly. Sounds like it might be quite a project. I imagine that a lot of the community resources are out of date. It's unclear to me how much they get used. These days I tend to use TiddlyTool Map because it has everything in community resources plus is kept up to date thanks to David and crew. I feel that there is a lot of good documentation on TW. But I've noticed that some people seem to use Google first before coming to TW. Sometimes Google leads them back to a static page on TiddlyWiki.com. Unfortunately, this is a bit like trying to read the encylopedia brittanica through a keyhole. Overall what you're suggesting looks good. I've mentioned before that I think the best approach is for someone to submit documentation changes, have it quickly applied, and if someone else disagrees they can do their own PR. Otherwise you end up with "death by committee". Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cd9fa97c-31d3-4231-a646-4cb3859696e7%40googlegroups.com.
