Thank you Flibbles, Here is my real life XML sample for the curious, but I got my answer: I went back to the wiki with your assurance that it should work, and I realised that I didn't take the namespace into account. Instead of a path like "/ONIXMessage/@release" that I first tried, I had to use " /*[name()='ONIXMessage']/@release" and that's only the first level of nesting :-) So having a way to change the current namespace from within the widget would be useful.
Cheers! -- Xavier Cazin On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:43 PM Flibbles <[email protected]> wrote: > Huh. Wrapping it in <$tiddler> should have worked. This does: > > <$tiddler tiddler="myRecipe.xml"> > <$xsl for-each="/recipe/ingredients/ingredient"> > > <<xmlNode>> > </$xsl> > </$tiddler> > > > But the plugin isn't very robust yet since it's just a proof-of-concept. > Could you send me what you have? > > Also, I think I'll probably change the widget to <$xpath> too. Not many > Tiddlywiki users know what xpath is, but it's more apropos than <$xml>. > > -Flibbles > > Are you able to send me what you have? > > On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 5:57:12 AM UTC-4, Xavier Cazin wrote: >> >> Hi Flibbles, >> >> Thanks a lot for sharing! Having dealt with much XSLT in a previous life, >> I planned to make useful comments, but now that I've seen your approach, >> I've only this one: this is brilliant! >> >> If you eventually make a filter (I vote for [xpath[]]) then, would the >> current behaviour of <$xsl variable=mynode foreach="/mypath/to/a/node"> be >> different from <$list filter=[xpath["/mypath/to/a/node"]] variable=mynode > >> ? >> >> By the way, it seems that I would use instructions on how to test the >> widget with a custom XML file, aside Demo.xml: I tried to surround a >> transform with <$tiddler tiddler="mycustomxml"> to no avail. >> >> Cheers, >> -- Xavier. >> >> >> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:50 AM Flibbles <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So I've decided to make such a plugin, and I'd like feedback. >>> >>> Here it is: https://flibbles.github.io/tw5-xml/ >>> It demonstrates the features as they are right now. >>> >>> It uses an <$xsl> widget to iterate through XML tiddlers using xpath. >>> It's nifty, though I'm not sure of the name. Maybe it should be <$xml> >>> or <$xpath>, because it's only vaguely similar to xslt. I looked into >>> literally using xslt, but it really didn't fit well with tiddlywiki. And >>> using a widget like this lets you mix and match wikitext and xpath however >>> you want, and I think it's just as powerful. >>> >>> Besides the attribute <$xsl for-each>, I'm considering <$xsl value-of>, >>> which will behave just like its xslt equivalent. Because otherwise, users >>> will have to do stuff like <$xsl for-each="./@oneAttribute" >>> variable="attr"><<attr>></$xsl> just to spit out one value. You can see >>> what I mean in the "nested" tab of the transform demo. It's *cumbersome* >>> . >>> >>> I'm also planning to add a filter operator. I'm thinking [xpath[]] or >>> [xml[]] to navigate input titles by the xpath operand. Again, still >>> haven't settled on a name. >>> >>> I'd like to have something like, {{myFile##xpath/indexer}} be a thing, >>> but I'd need to work with Jermolene about making the textReferences more >>> extensible first. >>> >>> I'm really looking for any feedback at all, from anyone. I'd like this >>> to gel as much as possible to Tiddlywiki methods. >>> >>> -Flibbles >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 2:33:30 AM UTC-4, Xavier wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Flibbles, >>>> >>>> I'd certainly use such a plugin! The perspective of retrieving data and >>>> document chunks from XML with such powerful xpath-like filters is quite >>>> exciting. Also I don't forget that XHTML is an XML instance... >>>> >>>> Don't hesitate to ask if you want early feeback! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Xavier. >>>> Le mar. 28 avr. 2020 à 04:22, Flibbles <[email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reply, TonyM. >>>>> >>>>> Looks like I'll continue with my plugin. Maybe I'll clean it up and >>>>> publish it--just a simple plugin that has some xml tools. >>>>> >>>>> I was also thinking about xpath filter operators or reference indexes. >>>>> ( {{MyXmlRecipe##food[name="French Toast"]/price}} ), or something like >>>>> that. Dunno who'd use it. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 9:02:59 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Flibbles, >>>>>> >>>>>> Given xml tags act like custom html tags I would think it may be >>>>>> possible to use css and the display but it appears the correct way is >>>>>> xslt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.w3schools.com/xml/tryxslt.asp?xmlfile=cdcatalog&xsltfile=cdcatalog >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <breakfast_menu> >>>>>> <food> >>>>>> <name>Belgian Waffles</name> >>>>>> <price>$5.95</price> >>>>>> <description> >>>>>> Two of our famous Belgian Waffles with plenty of real maple syrup >>>>>> </description> >>>>>> <calories>650</calories> >>>>>> </food> >>>>>> <food> >>>>>> <name>Strawberry Belgian Waffles</name> >>>>>> <price>$7.95</price> >>>>>> <description> >>>>>> Light Belgian waffles covered with strawberries and whipped cream >>>>>> </description> >>>>>> <calories>900</calories> >>>>>> </food> >>>>>> <food> >>>>>> <name>Berry-Berry Belgian Waffles</name> >>>>>> <price>$8.95</price> >>>>>> <description> >>>>>> Belgian waffles covered with assorted fresh berries and whipped >>>>>> cream >>>>>> </description> >>>>>> <calories>900</calories> >>>>>> </food> >>>>>> <food> >>>>>> <name>French Toast</name> >>>>>> <price>$4.50</price> >>>>>> <description> >>>>>> Thick slices made from our homemade sourdough bread >>>>>> </description> >>>>>> <calories>600</calories> >>>>>> </food> >>>>>> <food> >>>>>> <name>Homestyle Breakfast</name> >>>>>> <price>$6.95</price> >>>>>> <description> >>>>>> Two eggs, bacon or sausage, toast, and our ever-popular hash >>>>>> browns >>>>>> </description> >>>>>> <calories>950</calories> >>>>>> </food> >>>>>> </breakfast_menu> >>>>>> source https://www.w3schools.com/xml/default.asp >>>>>> >>>>>> Also there is some codemirror or highlight support for XML >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:54:33 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Flibbles, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It really depends on what features and functions you want to achieve >>>>>>> with XML. The closest comprehensive solution is >>>>>>> https://joshuafontany.github.io/TW5-JsonMangler/ but this is for >>>>>>> JSON. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - There has also being work on pulling tags and tag values from >>>>>>> html which would be very similar to some XML cases. >>>>>>> - I think there may even have being an XML editor written but I >>>>>>> cant find it. >>>>>>> - There is also a level of support already through html tag >>>>>>> mechanisms. >>>>>>> - We would benefit from some widgets and filter operators to >>>>>>> interrogate and write XML but this would be good if it were more >>>>>>> general >>>>>>> allowing us to manipulate any htm/xml in tiddlers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> tony >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8201341d-59b4-4b7c-9d0b-77d7b6a85177%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8201341d-59b4-4b7c-9d0b-77d7b6a85177%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6516629e-6a37-41b1-9bfe-a28f56acabdb%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6516629e-6a37-41b1-9bfe-a28f56acabdb%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fb4defb4-2287-470f-a951-e7719f09b4b4%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fb4defb4-2287-470f-a951-e7719f09b4b4%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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