On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 1:10 PM, drago01 <drag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Well the point seems to be that the partitioning screen isn't really
>> obvious to him .. tbh it is kind of awkward, but it is to late to fix
>> that for F18.
>
> This is why I've stopped all constructive or destructive criticism of 
> anaconda. I find too many UI/UX problems which in the face of many more 
> significant bugs that I feel in comparison that the UI/UX criticisms amount 
> to polish. More serous bugs need to be fixed.
>
> Plus, the UI is changing and has been changing throughout pre-alpha, alpha 
> and pre-beta. This indicates to me that feedback is taken seriously. But it 
> also indicates an ad hoc approach to solving UI/UX problems, rather than 
> having someone particularly skilled with UI/UX vetting the entire design from 
> the outset. What I hope is that the infrastructure changes under the hood 
> make it relatively easy for the whole GUI portion to be completely 
> reconsidered for F19. That was not possible with oldui, it had too many under 
> the hood issues to make significant functional changes.
>
> Now, the OP's example screen shot is quite a good example of inevitably 
> negative UX:
>
> 1. It's 100% text. It hardly constitutes a GUI. Nothing graphical is 
> leveraged to convey the existing or new layouts.
>
> 2. It mixes new install context with previous install contexts, while 
> simultaneously not showing a stitch of partitions by default. Once revealed, 
> the overall partition scheme is obscured by the distribution based 
> organization. Does this really show the same swap twice once for F16 and once 
> for F17 as if there are two swaps? I think Manual Partitioning is trying to 
> do too much and that's where all the confusion comes from and the bugs are 
> creeping in. I also don't have any idea what behaviors are intentional, so I 
> don't know what's a bug and what's just bad design.
>
> 3. The installer should not use conversational tone with the user. It's 
> inherently adversarial. e.g. It is not my f'n fault there are no mount points 
> for F18 yet.
>
> 4. Create new mount points with + icon? And *right below that* are two + 
> icons, neither of which are what this sentence is referring to. The create 
> mount point + icon is actually not in the screen shot, it's far below. But 
> right below, the + symbols that appear are the reveal widgets for F16 and 
> F17. This is confusing.
>
> 5. Why are instructions for the GUI found inside a reveal section for 
> installation? This instruction is making up for non-obvious UI. You'd have to 
> explain how to create a new partition because by default we aren't even 
> looking at partitions, we're looking at distributions. So the + and - icon at 
> the bottom imply add and remove distributions, not partitions.
>
> 6. "Back to destination selection" does not at all convey or imply that 
> settings made in the current section will be discarded, yet that's what 
> happens. Because this button location is unique, and everywhere else in 
> anaconda the button in that location *does* preserve settings, it is 
> completely rational for users to either a.) become confused about whether or 
> not their settings are preserved when clicking this button; or b.) to assume 
> that they are preserved when clicking this button.

Pretty good summary why I think this screen is just a mess from an UI pov.
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