On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> I'd like to discuss the following criterion:
>
> All release media must include a standalone memory test utility. A boot
> menu option to launch this utility must be present and must work correctly
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
>
> I wonder, what is the reason to have this as a release criterion? I don't
> find much value in it.
We get a *lot* of kernel bugs that are root-caused to be bad memory or other
hardware faults
using the memtest on the install disc. Having it not be there by default is an
extra step of
hand-holding we need to do to get users to test things.
> You can always use third-party tools for running a memory check. It's
> definitely good to have it on the media,
> but do we really want to block the release it is not included? I really
> don't see any justification for that.
>
> Remember, there is still the checksum criterion (that is much weaker btw,
> checksum doesn't have to exist) that
> makes sure you don't boot corrupted media (and it partly applies for
> corrupted memory as well).
That's a completely different problem.
memtest is there for "I got a kernel panic, and people asked me to test my
memory"
The checksum test is there for validating the iso you downloaded and burned is
valid.
> Recently we try to accept only very important bugs as blockers, always
> asking "would we really postpone the release if this was the last bug
> remaining?". When I try to apply the same approach for this criterion, my
> answer is a definite "no".
>
> I'd like to keep the list of criteria short and simple. If there is no real
> reason to have this criterion on the list, I'd like to remove it.
Historically, how many times has this held up the release ?
Dave
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