Thanks Marc! I think this is resolved then? Comments inline, and one request at the bottom.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 09:13:38AM -0500, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > Since the packages contain software that is meant to run specifically > in firefox and thunderbird, and the only reverse-depends seems to be > enigmail which is now obsolete, I think it is appropriate to simply > SRU empty packages. I assume this will be done with enigmail too since > it is no longer compatible or required with the newer thunderbird? > > While I can't recall the exact details, I'm pretty sure we did > something similar to firefox plugins when we switched to shipping new > upstream versions instead of > backporting patches. > > As for documenting the breakage...adding a note to the NEWS file in > the empty packages should be sufficient. Do you expect this to > actually break something? > > If any other member of the tech board disagrees with this, we can add > it as a topic for our next meeting. That perfectly answers my questions. Thanks! On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 03:37:48PM +0100, Olivier Tilloy wrote: > That's right, but the enigmail maintainer released an update that is > compatible with thunderbird 78 and shows a wizard on first run after > the update to import settings and keys into thunderbird's built-in PGP > support. > This is enigmail 2:2.2.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 currently in focal-proposed, > and it goes hand-in-hand with the thunderbird update. Excellent. Thank you! I have just one request, which to be clear is new and open to discussion, not a mandate. I've seen various changes we've made deliberately over the years cause a great deal of confusion in the Ubuntu support community, but I haven't been able to link to a single straightforward explanation. Usually, I think if our rationale were known, our users would be able to work with our changes better. So can we have a single authoritative explanation somewhere please, that explains what we're doing, why we're doing it, and the downsides of the trade-off we've chosen to accept? In this case, I suppose the downsides are some user disruption for former Enigmail users, and the removal of the two plugins - but we're doing it for good reason. I don't have a strong opinion on where we should document this (whether for example it's in a mailing list, a blog post, the wiki, a long bug comment or a Discourse post) - just as long as it's documented somewhere that can be linked to. I appreciate this mailing list and the bug might serve as a record that explains everything, but I think it's hard for others to dig through to find what actually happened amongst all the noise - hence my request specifically for a summary somewhere that can easily be linked to. This is something I propose that we start doing for _any_ significant user-disrupting change. Robie
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